ben_travis Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 So what frame is the booster designed for?Surely lots of frames have different widths of brake mount positions, and this booster design only seems to have up&down movement, rather than side to side movement as well.I am not sure how to combat this?but surely if you swap frames in the future there is a possibility it will not fit your new frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 according to the webiste its got a 100-104mm mounting spacing, designed for 39-48mm rims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Brodie Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 its at times like these that i wish i was sponsered by H.E.N looks bloody awsome..rob.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@Flawless Bikes Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Looks good wonder how much is will cost if released? Hopfull less then dengura's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 i think it would be more affective if the booster was to be run on the top side (think that may have already been mentioned). on the good side it is a top idea and cant wait for some reviews.regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacockâ„¢ Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Last time i spoke to him, he said that the booster fits fine with magura (perfect fit) but the heno is a first proto so it needs improving and ovusaly the size is one of the problems, ill try get more info. There will be some more proto hen products to show soon aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 if the power claims can be backed up... surely thats a science fact ? they've changed the leverage/piston sizes/ whatever you want to call it - so it has to be more powerful - just dont go buckling your rims ... If you look at your brake under pressure though, without a booster the brake kind of pivots about the frame mounts, i.e. frame flexes outwards but also the bolts can flex to allow the whole cyclinders to rotate slightly about the mounting point. By putting the booster so it 'sandwiches' the cylinders with the frame, you'll help reduce both frame and bolt flex more efficiently. That's how I've always thought of it anyway. what he said ... according to the webiste its got a 100-104mm mounting spacing, designed for 39-48mm rims. thats not much room for error ? and i dont see from the pictures how ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 thats not much room for error ? and i dont see from the pictures how ? exactly what i thought.....i would say that hot engineering novelties need to do some more work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 surely thats a science fact ? they've changed the leverage/piston sizes/ whatever you want to call it - so it has to be more powerful - just dont go buckling your rims ... it would be science fact if there were any figures to quantify and back up what they said. at the moment its just a claim. not overly convinced byt it all, to many small niggles in the design and claims of performance increases from the brake but nothing to back it up. looks good, but thats it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) it would be science fact if there were any figures to quantify and back up what they said. at the moment its just a claim. not overly convinced byt it all, to many small niggles in the design and claims of performance increases from the brake but nothing to back it up. looks good, but thats it so far. havent they just put in bigger pistons ? think its being run off a maggie lever ? EDIT : maybe not but thats how its being done ... Edited May 23, 2008 by manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Last time i asked hen are making a lever if they increase the lever size then with a magura lever it would pull in really far, but with more power when it hits the rim. i guess the new lever will enable them to increase the power but retain a reasonable lever throw and feel. i was doubting the claim, its just theyve given no figures to actually back up the claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacockâ„¢ Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Should be able to be bought in 4 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Swindlehurst Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 canni wait to get mine !! danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 But still, HEN bikes... *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacockâ„¢ Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hi guys, just been speaking to the hen team again, and the brake is going to be released very soon. Have a look at this site, some parts are in russian, but ill have a word help him with translations etc. http://henobrake.ru.gg/Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upbikes Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) On a site there is no important information.>> "Фотографии в галерее еще не добавлены!"Photos in gallery are not added yet! Edited July 28, 2008 by Upbikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacockâ„¢ Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Its getting there just thought id show that its still in happening. Hubs are going to be available soon as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 So which brightspark came up with 'hot engineering novelties'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pantsâ„¢ Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 So which brightspark came up with 'hot engineering novelties'?It's a double translate... Translate it to Russian and then back to English and you get 'hot new items technology'Sounds a bit better, if it was in decent English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Yeah but thats like a description, not a brand name.Its like rebranding Coca Cola 'caffienated brown-black sugar vegetable extract soft drink' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacockâ„¢ Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Not quiet sure what you mean sorry... As you can see the calipers can be broke down cleaned etc, with new seals being availabe ! Hopefuly that will mean that the problems with leaking the dengura had will be elimated ! All the internals are completly replaceable, which will hopefuly mean that you can keep the same pistons just replacing internals. And like most of the HEN range, comes with 5 year warrenty ! Heres a couple of pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-i-t-c-h Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) i know its going back to the start of the thread, but no one has answered dave, 25% more braking power? It would be 25% more powerful if the lever cylinder was larger, not the brake cylinders. The smaller (to a degree) the brake cylinder is the more powerful the piston force will be on a lever driven system, yeah? so why weaken the brake with a bigger piston without releasing a even larger cylinder in a lever? Edited July 31, 2008 by M-i-t-c-h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 i know its going back to the start of the thread, but no one has answered dave, 25% more braking power? It would be 25% more powerful if the lever cylinder was larger, not the brake cylinders. The smaller (to a degree) the brake cylinder is the more powerful the piston force will be on a lever driven system, yeah? so why weaken the brake with a bigger piston without releasing a even larger cylinder in a lever?No, making the brake cylinder bigger will make it more powerfull, but it will mean that if it is run with a magura lever for example you would need to set the brake up closer to the rim, anybody remember RB levers that had a 13mm piston instead of the magura 14mm, brake was more powerfull, but more spongey and you had to set the pads closer to the rim.Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan@Trials-uk Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Pretty cool design, however until its been through testing stage we wont know the true performance of this item. Also I am skeptical about the quality of these: HENO Piston Parts Quality, Hopefully the production items will be finished off with precision:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Also if they're going to launch a sub brand they could at least do it reputably. Free web and picture hosting? Well pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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