CalopS Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 So gutted Vettel is out!! Love how you had to edit your post because you were so wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Love how you had to edit your post because you were so wrong Totally, but I am sure you agree that's what would have happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Totally, but I am sure you agree that's what would have happened? It's hard to say, Lewis was pretty on it this weekend. It makes me look forward to the last race though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Yeah, I can't wait for Brazil! It's always the best race of the year To be honest, I hope Vettel comes back and does the same next year. He is so talented, and unlike Hamilton he isn't a dick lol! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 To be honest, I hope Vettel comes back and does the same next year. He is so talented, and unlike Hamilton he isn't a dick lol! Yeah, cos that'll make an interesting watch for us... Maybe everyone else should just take a year off so Vettel can be assured pole, fastest lap, race win etc. every time. I'd watch that for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Yeah, cos that'll make an interesting watch for us... Maybe everyone else should just take a year off so Vettel can be assured pole, fastest lap, race win etc. every time. I'd watch that for sure. Or maybe they should drive better. I understand a fair amount of it is down to the cars, but without that sort of domination motorsport wouldn't evolve at the rate it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 You certainly strike me as the sort of person who'd like Vettel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 You certainly strike me as the sort of person who'd like Vettel. Have you not seen a picture of me Mark? I literally AM Vettel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Where's the Button love?! What a drive despite some real set backs, he's been the star of the season for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Where's the Button love?! What a drive despite some real set backs, he's been the star of the season for me. I honestly thought he would be seriously outshone by Lewis when he joined McLaren... he's actually driven better than ever! His World Champion year was partially lucky/down to the car but he's really done well this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Keeping Webber and Massa behind whilst carry a useless KERS system was impressive! This season (and previously) his consistency and tactical prowess mark Jenson out from the others. I'm not a fan of Vettel, don't get me wrong he is a (almost ) faultless and phenomenally quick driver in an incredible car and team, I'm just not really that keen on a 'lights to flag' win with no drama's or sniffs of action. I'd be saying the same for Hamilton, Jenson, Webber or Alonso (who's attitude I hate). A race where the leader only gets gratuitous screen time and then shown crossing the line detracts from the race IMO. But then for the drivers they are probably the most rewarding, the races where they've clearly outclassed the rest of the field by a comfortable margin. I'm rambling now so I'll stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Gibbs Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I thought Jenson has been awesome this year. Alot better than Lewis. I've also been pretty impressed by Paul Di Resta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Or maybe they should drive better. I understand a fair amount of it is down to the cars, but without that sort of domination motorsport wouldn't evolve at the rate it does. A fair amount? 95% of it is the car, put Vettel in Ferrari and he'd be 4th. Put Alonso in the RB7 and he'd be first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 A fair amount? 95% of it is the car, put Vettel in Ferrari and he'd be 4th. Put Alonso in the RB7 and he'd be first. Put them all in the same car and...? Will never happen but would love to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Put them all in the same car and...? Will never happen but would love to see it. Weelll, we know that jenson would be generally ahead of Lewis, alonso would be creaming massa and that webber would probably be last.... Personal feeling is that this years drivers end up something like this 1. Jenson 2. Alonso 3. Vettel 4. Hamilton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Put them all in the same car and...? Will never happen but would love to see it. Ditto - that would be awesome. I think for a single lap the order of the drivers would be different to a stint - Hamilton can drive a car to the ragged edge, but Button is kinder to the tyres over 10-15 laps, if you get me. Think Vettel must be fairly quick too as he generally ends up a fair bit ahead of Webber, but hard to say given the car he's in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Ditto - that would be awesome. I think for a single lap the order of the drivers would be different to a stint - Hamilton can drive a car to the ragged edge, but Button is kinder to the tyres over 10-15 laps, if you get me. Think Vettel must be fairly quick too as he generally ends up a fair bit ahead of Webber, but hard to say given the car he's in... The thing with Vettel is that I'm not sure we ever see him fully on the edge. The fact he can usually pull out a fastest lap on the final lap of a race without trying too hard is slightly worrying. Obviously the car helps but he seems to (unfortunately) have an incredible natural speed and knowledge of how hard he can push 'safely' while still blitzing everyone. I'd love to see another proper race like the Merc won that Senna one back in 1984. Fairly 'normal' cars, all identical, over a reasonable race distance (none of this 2 lap ROC stuff). Invite some of the yanks over from the US series so the F1 boys can piss all over them and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Good point about the last lap thing Dave... I'm still unsure whether it's the car or the driver, he hasn't really had chance to prove himself this year IMO, because of never really having to pass anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Why do people continue to debate whether Vettel can overtake, I get that the pundits keep talking about it to keep interest but to me its now blatantly obvious that Vettel is a balls to the wall overtaker whenever its neccesary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 f**king terrible....BBC are fags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Not really because SKY sports will also feature live F1 coverage for 2012. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9550930.stm Surprised to here of 'Iceman' Kimi Raikkonen's return to F1 in 2012, with a 2-year deal with Lotus/Renualt. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15934329.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewEH1 Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Not really because SKY sports will also feature live F1 coverage for 2012. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9550930.stm Surprised to here of 'Iceman' Kimi Raikkonen's return to F1 in 2012, with a 2-year deal with Lotus/Renualt. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15934329.stm I am not legally allowed to have Sky in my flat. Not that I could afford it. Most of the stuff on Sky is complete drivel and I'm not paying £100s to watch F1 races that no doubt will get the 'football' treatment. I am fully aware of the facts. Also the BBC chose their races very poorly indeed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamus Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I doubt they had a choice if sky's power isn't already obvious. I also think Vettel is a complete package as a driver (much as I dislike the chaps domination of the sport), his progression through back markers is usually astonishing, however thats usually accompanied by a closing mclaren being held up by all manner of poor decsions and lack of awareness from the rest of the field. Some of the moves/lines by the tora rosso (surprise surprise), suabers and the squabbling mercedes this season have had me on my feet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Mercedes close to V6 test aaah yea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Should be an interesting weekend ahead. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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