Mod And Stock Rivalry Between Riders!

[nicks]

Hi all,

Whats the deal with mod and stock riders not riding together

Edited March 13, 2008 by nicks

[Mark W]

Why did you copy this thread?

[nicks]

i didnt

[Conor the basher.]

I new i had seen this tread before

Ahh i see the other lad got valdated if you look closley its the same but the some of the words have been changed a rather silly way of trying to get validated.

Edited March 13, 2008 by Conor the basher.

[Mark W]

i didnt

Hey.

I may be relatively new on here, but I'm not new to Trials riding.

I've noticed whenever I mooch around these hallowed pages that there are an awful lot of riders espewing the view that "Mod is cheating"...

I'm not here to start an argument, but I would like to know where this has come from and what other people think of the subject.

Now, I'm fully prepared to be corrected on the following statement, but weren't the original Trials bikes all Mods?

I'm fairly sure the name itself comes from the fact that they were originally modified from BMXs for motorcycle Trials riders to practice on and to keep fit between rounds/seasons.

If this is true, then surely it follows that rather than 'cheating', using 'mods' is more true-to-form than the current crop of 'stock' bikes.

I've ridden both, and yes some manouevres are naturally easier than others on a 'mod', but equally I find it much harder to do some moves on my 'mod' than I ever did on any of my 'stock' bikes.

Would it not be a little more accurate to describe 'stock' Trials as more challenging option, something to aim for perhaps, than to refer to 'mod' riding as 'cheating'? I don't particularly like the idea that people out riding might be looking down on me for my choice of wheelsize, and I can't imagine any new riders feeling any different. A lot of newer riders really take on board what more experienced riders have to say about the sport, the equipment used and also the size/shape/style of bikes used...

Putting forward an idea that people who ride 'mod' are doing so because its easier and therefore cheating seems to go against the grain of everything we say as trials riders, in that we pride ourselves on not being elitist tossers, don't you think? We always claim we'll ride with anyone, are happy to help each other progress and other things along those lines.

Do these 'stock' riders somehow feel that their Trials achievements are being undermined by someone doing a similar thing but on a smaller set of wheels? Honestly?

I ride 'mod' now for a couple of reasons; I'm a clumsy rider and was fed up with breaking mechs and tensioners on my 'stock', I really like the look of the 'mods', I find that I have more confidence when learning new things on a 'mod', and finally for some reason I see videos of 'mod' riders and seem to be inspired more by them than a lot of the 'stock' riders...

Obviously a lot of this is personal preference , I'm not here for a "which is better?" debate, just interested in what people think

- Adi -

Hi all, I may be relatively new on here, but I'm not new to Trials riding. I've noticed whenever I look around these pages that there are a great deal of riders thinking that view that mod is cheating.

I'm not here to start anything, but I would like to know where this has come from and what other people think of the subject.

Now, I'm fully prepared to be corrected on the following statement, but weren't the original Trials bikes all Mods?

I'm fairly sure the name itself comes from that they were originally from BMXs for motorbikes Trials riders to practice on and to keep fit while not on the motorbike.

If this is true, then surely it follows that rather than cheating, using a mod bike is more true to trials than the current crop of stock bikes.

I've ridden a bit of both, and yes some stock are naturally easier than others on a 'mod', but equally I find it much harder to do some moves on my mod than I ever did on any of my stock bikes.

Would it not be a little more accurate to describe stock Trials as more of a challenging option, something to aim for perhaps, than to refer to mod riding as cheating? I don't really like the idea that people out riding might be looking down on us moddies for my choice of wheel size, and I can't imagine any new riders feeling any bit different. A lot of newer riders really take on board what more experienced riders have to say about the sport of trials.

Putting forward an idea that people who ride mod are doing so because its easier and therefore cheating seems to go against the grain of everything do or therefore say as trials riders, in that we pride ourselves on not being elitist tossers, don't you think? We always claim we'll ride with anyone or anything, are happy to help each other progress and other things along those lines.

Do these stock riders somehow feel that their Trials achievements are being degraded by someone doing a similar thing but on a smaller set of wheels? I mean come one!

I ride mod now for a couple of reasons; i love it', I really like the look of the mods, I find that I have more confidence when learning new things on a smaller bike beacuse i can throught it around more, and finally for some reason I see videos of mod riders and seem to be inspired more by them than a lot of the stock riders. ( sorry stock riders )

Obviously a lot of this is personal preference , I'm not here for a "which is better?" debate, just interested in what people think.

Please let me know

Thanks

Andrew

How can you say "you didn't"? The bits in bold are identical in both threads. How did you think people wouldn't spot that?

[nicks]

ye sorry guys

Edited March 13, 2008 by nicks