TrialKid32 Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Im 14 and new to trials. im quite small for my age and not very strong. i cant do much yet so i was wondering if its more about strength or skill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Skill everytime, when you know how to then it'll happen easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcd Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 well i think it is a bit of both. you need some strenght to lift the bike onto the back wheel but skill to get up what you are wanting to get up. Like sidehops for example, there are so many different techniques and they all mostly lead to the same outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolfa Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Skill for the initial technique, strength when you're looking to static leap up a 50ft building Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzat-comp Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 There's lodes of different veiws on whats most important. You could argue that you would need power to launch yourself up/along but then again i know quite a few very very good riders that don't have much muscle ect But are still amazing then however you can't just be powerful and not skilled because that power would have nowhere to go just my oppinion but i'm 50/50 on this one.Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve@banbury-trials Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 in my opinion skill beats strength ,i reckon its something like 70:30 .steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialKid32 Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 thanks all you guys for the tips. it will stop me worrying that ill never be good at trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Fox Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Skill...... A week skillfull rider can perform moves even if they are not big, a strong unskilled rider looks like an idiot when he goes to the gym every night only to fail at being able to truckstand. I am not saying being strong doesnt help but you need the skill to put that strength to good use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 You need to have good spring in your legs , and you need explosive power. If you practice plyometrics you will be get more springy and i think you will be a better rider.You dont need to be really strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 well i think it is a bit of both. you need some strenght to lift the bike onto the back wheel but skill to get up what you are wanting to get up. Like sidehops for example, there are so many different techniques and they all mostly lead to the same outcome.Hardly. its more about body position, movement and appling pressure to pedals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddler Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 hmmm i must agree with skill. though i would agree hoping up a brick wall isn't just going to be down to skill you need the strength but otherwise a lot of the work is down to skill.....and practice remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headley Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 it's mainly about skill but obviously strength will help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aziraphael Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Hey Liam! Welcome to the world of Trials!In response to your question:I think it varies from rider to rider.There are a few different ways to get up onto a block, for example.Yes, you could just lunge at the block and physically wrench the bike up onto it, but also you could skillfully pop the front wheel onto the top then by a simple weight shift bring the back wheel up there too. Both styles will acheive the same result, one will look smoother, granted, but as long as you're up there and happy with how you did it, it shouldn't matter.It's all about having fun and learning. As a good riding buddy of mine says, "It doesn't matter how you got up it, mate, just as long as you did".You can make an awful lot of effort for youself trying power moves and such where you could just be smooth instead. Some moves do require being able to manhandle the bike, but a lot of it is just about weight-shifting and technique.Something else to bear in mind is that if you're only just starting out, both your strength AND technique will improve anyway.On a similar note, have you seen any videos of 'Bigman' riding?The guy is big and burly and looks like he could easily pull your head off, but he's all about the smoooooooth... He never looks as though he's having to muscle the bike around because he just flows...I guess what I'm trying to say is that every rider adapts to their own strengths and weaknesses.I've been on rides recently with a guy who's name I sadly forget, but I swear the kid looks about 9 and he's up and over stuff twice as high as I can manage! I'd happily say I could benchpress this kid without thinking twice, but he knows how to work his bike.Yeah, so just to re-iterate; you'll find your own style, whether it be power or technique, and you'll get as good as you believe you can.Now get out there and ride!- Adi - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 London Martin from South Africa anyone? Anyone who's rode london with him will understand0 techniquieMassive guns...Scary to watch but he goes huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peperami Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Skill every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 if i had some strength when i started i would be immense.using technique only is gay, but you have to do it if your young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessell Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 if i had some strength when i started i would be immense.using technique only is gay, but you have to do it if your youngbig enough head ash?i recon skill more than strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 big enough head ash?i recon skill more than strengthnot really, look at people like andy ball, been riding a 1/4 of the time i have and is basically at the same level, hes f**kin tanked. strength plays a massive factor IMO, damon uses the gym loads, shows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Technique wil always better strength!Being able to do something small, but properly, on a bike is better than being big and muscly and doing something big, badly!More risk of danger and bike breakage!Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 London Martin from South Africa anyone? Anyone who's rode london with him will understand0 techniquieMassive guns...Scary to watch but he goes huge!that's not very nice simpsman....he does have some technique! but it's true...he has huuuuuugeness i am so weak!! and skinny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2k8-looney Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 personaly i would say its more like 60% skill 40% strength and as the ther riders have said u do need skill alot more but u do need strength to do bigger and better things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 unless you're severly physically retarded...skill is more important, its more like 70% skill, 30% strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Mrkoxx on here is the most shrimpy guy i know, and he's a beast. so its more like skill 85%, strength 15%.He is Spanish though, and can catch fish with his bare hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 my mate nathen is a pure beast strong as f**k, but no technique therefore he is shite, but now hes learnt loads more technique,id says it down to technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 How about 80% practice 15% skill and 5% strength........ and 7% mathematics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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