nicks Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hi, all i was wondering if the echo hydrolioc brakes were any good. Ive been told the pads they come with arnt any good so can someone please recomend some pads to go with them.ThanksAndrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hi, all i was wondering if the echo hydrolioc brakes were any good. Ive been told the pads they come with arnt any good so can someone please recomend some pads to go with them.ThanksAndrew the pads are fine...if you water bleed them however, they have what i like to refer to as the colindar effect...they just dont hold bleeds at all...the seals in the lever are tripe, just get an 04 magura... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 the pads are fine, the brakes just loose fluid, get a magura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwbashaw Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I agree the pads are fine but if you want different pads you should specify if you have a grind or not. For example I like the blue rock trials pads for the rear because I have a grind, but I use the green for the front because I don't have a grind on the front. I like the rock pads, but I would probably go with the Heat Sinks next if I wasn't switching to VEE'sDo not get the CNC backed ones though they are known to rip the knob off the brakessee the quote below from Echo's website "Note: Never use aluminum backing brake pads for ECHO rim brake system, because the alunimun backing will cut the knob of the cylinder very easy. In such a case, warranty will be null and void." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryallmaster Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 Can someone write a review on the echo CNC brake, very interested in buying just the lever unit.Cheers, Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 It's just pointless money spendage!They leek and lok crap.If you want an Epic brake get an '04 magura! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiiing Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) People always seem to think that their crap because they leak....They only leak (in my experience) when they have been bled with water.So they leak when you use the wrong fluid in the brake, that doesn't make them shit at all.It's like saying a Shimano disc brake (that uses mineral oil) is crap because if you bleed it with dot fluid it kills the seals and leaks. Echo brakes aren't designed to have water in the system, so why use water? Edited April 2, 2008 by boiiing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 People always seem to think that their crap because they leak....They only leak (in my experience) when they have been bled with water.So they leak when you use the wrong fluid in the brake, that doesn't make them shit at all.It's like saying a Shimano disc brake (that uses mineral oil) is crap because if you bleed it with dot fluid it kills the seals and leaks. Echo brakes aren't designed to have water in the system, so why use water?But, IMO, it's pointless buying a product(Dengura) that is very expensive and that isn't any better/is worse than a cheaper product(Magura) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiiing Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) But, IMO, it's pointless buying a product(Dengura) that is very expensive and that isn't any better/is worse than a cheaper product(Magura)A cnc'd lever body is going to be far stronger than the magura bodies you can buy now So it's stronger..... - good pointLeaks when bled with wrong fluid - not exactly a bad point as it's the users fault.expensive - I've snapped 2 magura lever bodies, snapped prongs off 3 cylinders. Doubt it would have happened on a Dengura. So the price isn't that bad.Slave cylinders are smaller so crank clearance is better - good point Edited April 2, 2008 by boiiing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 But you don't have a Dengura,So stop arguing with me!LOLI can see what you mean about the wrong fluid and all that but there aren't a lot of people out there who brek maggies like you do!xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiiing Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) But you don't have a Dengura,So stop arguing with me!LOLI can see what you mean about the wrong fluid and all that but there aren't a lot of people out there who brek maggies like you do!xDI have used a dengura lever blade and body.And there are a lot of people who break the magura bodies...... Edited April 2, 2008 by boiiing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cox. Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 they look nice, but thats about it mate. Get yourself a maggie there better, reliable.and pads, depends if you got a grind, smooth rim. ect.cheers.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 But you don't have a Dengura,So stop arguing with me!LOLI can see what you mean about the wrong fluid and all that but there aren't a lot of people out there who brek maggies like you do!xDThink before you speakmany people have broke maggies. Its coman for lever bodies to snap, cylinder prongs to break hoseing to break all the time, tpas breaking although dengs is worse and many more stuff i cant think of. Still would have a maggie over one though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RENDER Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Don't know about the pads but I'm selling this shit in Ukraine and from the last 10 sold ECHO Brakes 8 refounds... They bleed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NileBrown™ Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) Echo brakes aren't designed to have water in the system, so why use water?Neither were maguras though were they? They say you can have cooking oil in as long as its flushed out,But not water... You hear far more cases of a leaking deng brake than maggies.just goes to show that maggies are in fact better Edited April 4, 2008 by NileBrown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Fisher Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 look lush so i bought one,put it on the bike and within 10 minscould see that i wasted my money got rid of it as fast as i could !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiiing Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Neither were maguras though were they? They say you can have cooking oil in as long as its flushed out,But not water... You hear far more cases of a leaking deng brake than maggies.just goes to show that maggies are in fact better That shows maggies can be bled with wrong fluids.I never said maggies weren't better, I was just saying that people say dengura's are shit because they bleed them with the wrong fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason222 Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 (edited) I've had 4 echo brakes. 2 of them leaked (non water bleed!), lines break easily, slow rebound, spongy, the brake pads are gay, I honestly have nothing good to say about them.I'd rather just have a magura with aftermarket lever. Edited April 7, 2008 by Jason222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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