bradnutter Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 hey bout 1 month ago i snaped my zoo pitbull and i wonderd if it would still be strong if i welded it back up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve@banbury-trials Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 i imagine it'll be ok as long as its welded up to a resonable standard ,im sure i have heard of people doing still to their bike too.steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.j Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 don't think it would be as strong as it was, but wouldnt be brittle either, just keep an eye on it if you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 yes mate that will be fien get it done proffesinally and it will hold saves buying a frame and if it does snap agian then just get ride of it dec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 yes mate that will be fien get it done proffesinally and it will hold decwrong wrong wrongIf you just get the frame welded up, no matter how well its done it will snap again with in a matter of months or weeks. Trials frame are heat treated and when a frame is rewelded from cracking the heat undoes the heat treating makeing the frame weak around that area.What you need to do is weld it back up and have it reheat treated the frame should then last. Heat treating can be expensive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddler Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 welding a frame as far as i am concerned is fine. i have just had my own frame welded back up after it snapped. it was done professionally and they also put an extra piece of metal onto my frame to try and increase the strength a bit more.So it is fine but i would just suggest you get it done by a specialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradnutter Posted March 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 cheers for your comments i might decide to get i repaired but how much would you say to get it done by a professinaly welder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddler Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 well luckily my dad works with a professional welder, so to be honest not sure on a price but ask around don't just go for the nearest specialists or the first one you find. plenty of deals can be made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gu trials Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 hi i would weld it back together and weld a piece of aliminium other it just incase the weld does not hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 Non of this will make a difference unless you heat treat it, a bracket welded on will help but eventually not solve the problem, people have had frames welded and it snapped a week later below the weld because they didnt have it treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 When a frame is welded and not heat treated it gets very brital and just snaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe berresford Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hey, i cracked my orange zero at the chain-stay. my mates a welder by trade so i got him to weld me it. I had a plate welded on and a load of weld built up around the crack. Within weeks the cracked developed again, and it is bigger now than ever. If i were i would keep your eye out for a new frame, maybe a second hand one. I don't think its worth the risk of injuring yourself if the frame was to crack or snap again, especially if your doing something big. And you'll always have it on your mind when trying something that there's a possibility it could break again. joe b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsboy26 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Was always of the opinion if it's alloy it just isn't worth the cost and potential hassle of having it welded due to, as others have commented, heat treatment process that all alloys frames go through, steels a different matter as it can be welded back up without too much hassle but even then I would still be cautious riding it. Whenever I have broken or cracked a frame I've always binned it as don't think it's worth getting injured over it, but sucks not be able to ride ebay is your friend start looking for a new frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Depends how bad the snap is, if it has bent other parts of the frame it won't work too well I would have thought. My mate got a Monty PR welded when it cracked, and that was fine up until he sold it, I think it was heat treated.Best to ask in a motorbike shop, as they often have to get frames on motorbikes welded if they get one in with damaged lugs or cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwellduryea Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 aluminum...no chance...steel, no problem. just get someone who knows what they are doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_addison Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I know that welds are stronger than a intact piece of metal. Im not so sure if it goes for frames though. Get it done propaly like other people have said. It should be fine but id keep a beedy eye on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 welding an aluminium frame without heat treating it is never going to be as strong as before...with proper heat treatin it would, theoretiucally, be the same strength again...but the likelihood of finding someone to heat-treat it for a resonable price is fairly small! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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