trials_pimp Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Got me a new drivetrain, 20t Chainring, 17t Sproket, KHE Collapse chain, Gusset Tensioner.I fit the chain, its a tad long. Its on and tight, but needs a fair amount to swing on the tensioner to keep it on.I cant remove 1 Link cause it would then be too short to fit. The Chain came with a split link. The Type with the Plate with 2 pins, a plate for the top and a Circlip. Would this be strong enough to use on a trials bike?I havent used 1 before, unlike the Sram quicklinks which were really good.Dont want to stick it on and have it smap after a couple rides. Does anyone use one, or should I just leave it a little long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 As a general rule of thumb i never use split links, i always fit the chain together properly. I don't really see the need for a split link, with a mountain bike its fair enough, you'll probably have 2 mechs to geth the chain round and so a split link is faster, but on a trials bike i wouldn't be able to trust one properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I have used quick links for 12 years and never had a problem. Then I got myself a Collapse chain and snapped the quick link after some weeks. I can't recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Thomson Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 I used to use one a while ago and according to someone's sig. CLS uses/used a split-link..I'm sure it would be ok just i wouldn't trust it for very long.Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeM Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Mines been fine.. Although, i'm going to take it out to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Im currently running a split link, what is the risk im running ? Everyone seems to put them down ?Ive always been under the impression they are strong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyyork Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Im currently running a split link, what is the risk im running ? Everyone seems to put them down ?Ive always been under the impression they are strong ?The risk is a little something like this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYsIp-kWmk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I don't understand where everyone gets the idea that they instantly snap from. I go through quite a lot of KMCs and am still yet to see a split link snap, is normally just one of the plates snapping when I kill one. This is on the BMX width chain though so may be different for thinner chains. Should be fine with the KHE split link I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 The risk is a little something like this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYsIp-kWmkThe risk is increased when you only wear shoes and shorts too, if you ask me, he deserved that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Mines been fine.. Although, i'm going to take it out to be sure.Split links are fine really.If you split/join the chain via another link, you remove the mushroomed head, taking away a huge amount of the strength of that join.The only time I've ever had a chain break on me was when I WASN'T using a split link (KMC Style, the Sram 'Powerlink' style are XC only, if that!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyyork Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 The risk is increased when you only wear shoes and shorts too, if you ask me, he deserved that!Nearly everything you do in life has an ascociated risk. Do you really think that anyone who takes a risk deserves the worst consequences?IMO Everyone is allowed to make a mistake here and there, and yes I always wear a shirt and a helmet now (which I used to do 99% of the time anyway), and I also won't make the mistake of running a split link on my KMC again. I think its the people that don't learn from their wrong doings and repeditively do stupid s**t that deserve any bad consequences that come their way. I was just pointing out what can happen when a split link gives up. Have no Idea about the khe but I wouldn't use a link in a chain that has material missing from the pins to seat a skinny circlip, I don't think there is any way this could be as strong as a proper link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Had my split link in my KHE for ages, no 1 problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Never had any trouble with split links. Used then since I stared and NEVER had a KMC or KHE snap on me. Sram "powerlinks" are pritty pants though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 (edited) Slightly off topic.But I got myself a kmc collapse chain and for the moment I used a split link.And when I took some links off because the chain was too long the pins were really hard to get outso I am pretty sure it would be impossible to get the pin back in once they out to link the chain.Any tips on how I could do it ?Cheers Edited March 3, 2008 by TrAsHeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 (edited) Slightly off topic.But I got myself a kmc collapse chain and for the moment I used a split link.And when I took some links off because the chain was too long the pins were really hard to get outso I am pretty sure it would be impossible to get the pin back in once they out to link the chain.Any tips on how I could do it ?CheersDont pop it all the way out. Leave a little bit remaining on the male link so u can slide the female out and no messing around! a good chain splitter will do the job fine ;]LOLBAD SPELLINGSZZZZZ Edited March 3, 2008 by Echo_Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Dont pop it all the way out. Leave a little bit remaining on the male link so u can slide the female out and no messing around! a good chain splitter will do the job fine ;]LOLBAD SPELLINGSZZZZZHad a go at that but when I put it together the link was so stiff I could hardly move it.Because it was so tight, shall I leave like that until it comes loose ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I reckon the split links on KMC/KHE chains (I.e. the 3 piece ones you described) are fine. Just make sure you steer clear of SRAM powerlinks, yeah?I cant remove 1 Link cause it would then be too short to fit.I'm not quite sure how the split link will help this though? It's no shorter than normal links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted March 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 2 links I ment, to make the chain join to itself but 1 peice shorter if you cach my drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 2 links I ment, to make the chain join to itself but 1 peice shorter if you cach my drift.Yeh. attack them as you would any other. One word or caution, The actual split link that clicks in place. The full end wants to Follow the chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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