Matt_Zoot Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Evening guys,I have a 1 series 1.20D Turbo and I was wondering if anyone knows how far I can roughly go once the trip computer says zero miles left. I'm too scared to try it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 just go for it, go really fast so when it runs out you can cruise along for further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidehop Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Probs a fair bit... Top Gear done it with an audi.I may be verry rong but you have a little reserve tank to go onto after the red line... i belive its to like carry you to a petrol station.Mate can do 30 miles or more with eco driving when his car hits red line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Mate can do 30 miles or more with eco driving when his car hits red line.Yeah but there's a big difference between a red line/fuel warning light coming on and a computer which has calculated your remaining range. Personally I wouldn't bother risking it as it'll just mess your car up and clog your fuel filter when it sucks up all the crap in the bottom of your tank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 It's worse than that. If you run out of fuel in a diesel, you can't just put more in and off you go, you have to get the RAC to bleed your fuel system before the car will run again.Don't bother finding out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 It's worse than that. If you run out of fuel in a diesel, you can't just put more in and off you go, you have to get the RAC to bleed your fuel system before the car will run again.Don't bother finding out.There you go, even better reason not to be silly! I think it's also an offence to begin a journey without having sufficient fuel to complete your journey so doing it deliberately's just plain daft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 There you go, even better reason not to be silly! I think it's also an offence to begin a journey without having sufficient fuel to complete your journey so doing it deliberately's just plain daft!Only on the motorway I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONGO Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 It's worse than that. If you run out of fuel in a diesel, you can't just put more in and off you go, you have to get the RAC to bleed your fuel system before the car will run again.Don't bother finding out.Or do it yourself...All you need is the right size spanner in with your spare wheel in case. You need another person to turn the key as you crack the injectors but the chances of running out of fuel and having nobody around at all are small. I've had to do it in my van in the past lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Only on the motorway I believe Fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Yeah but there's a big difference between a red line/fuel warning light coming on and a computer which has calculated your remaining range. Personally I wouldn't bother risking it as it'll just mess your car up and clog your fuel filter when it sucks up all the crap in the bottom of your tank...Most of the cars (if not all) calculate it so that even when it is on 0 miles theres still a fair bit of juice left incase you didn't notice. No matter how easy you make it for people to realise their out of fuel theres still the odd few that just don't get it *sigh*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Why not pick a jerry can up and go get 5 litres...or use 2 and get 10? Then drive to the garage and fill up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 It's worse than that. If you run out of fuel in a diesel, you can't just put more in and off you go, you have to get the RAC to bleed your fuel system before the car will run again.Useful advice. And if this does happen, don't sit there trying to turn it over for half an hour and burn the starter motor out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONGO Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 It can actually happen before you actually run totally dry. It's happened to me where i've made it to the garage with a couple of chugs a few hundred yards before, then i fill up and think it's all ok, only to break down a mile down the road with a full tank becasue the engine has pulled air in and can't get the compression. Like i said above i carry a 10mm spanner and craced the injectors and it fired up no probs, but it's a bit of a ball ache when you htink you could of filled up at the garage earlier that day and avoided the kerfuffle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 to those talking about bleeding the fuel system and stuff in a diesel, you are really giving yourself more trouble than you need. all you need to do is intercept the air intake fairly close to the engine by splitting the tube somewhere. now spray a shite load of easy-start (or wd40 if you're desperate) towards the engine through this hole and fire her up. It'll take a couple of turns to do, but it's a guaranteed fix - as far as my weekly experience in my astra cdti tells me anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONGO Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 to those talking about bleeding the fuel system and stuff in a diesel, you are really giving yourself more trouble than you need. all you need to do is intercept the air intake fairly close to the engine by splitting the tube somewhere. now spray a shite load of easy-start (or wd40 if you're desperate) towards the engine through this hole and fire her up. It'll take a couple of turns to do, but it's a guaranteed fix - as far as my weekly experience in my astra cdti tells me anyway!Eh?! 'bleeding the system' takes under 10 seconds!!! All you do is crack the injectors as the engine is turning over. A lil bit of diesel will piss out as the injectors are working, then you tighten it up. One by one 4 injectors a quarter turn loose then re-tighten. It really is faster than any other way of doing it!I've done it in under 30 seconds with just a spanner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 It's worse than that. If you run out of fuel in a diesel, you can't just put more in and off you go, you have to get the RAC to bleed your fuel system before the car will run again.Don't bother finding out.Not on all of them, just some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 When gauges say empty, you ruffley have about another half gallon, It just dosen't register on the sender because its too low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Eh?! 'bleeding the system' takes under 10 seconds!!! All you do is crack the injectors as the engine is turning over. A lil bit of diesel will piss out as the injectors are working, then you tighten it up. One by one 4 injectors a quarter turn loose then re-tighten. It really is faster than any other way of doing it!I've done it in under 30 seconds with just a spanner...lets race... i challenge you to 5 seconds and i'll use only a can of easy start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 DONT DO ITBongo your thinkning of the Wrong type of Diesel injection System.Modern Systemsmust never be alowed to run dry. They use the diesel fuel to lubricae the pump, and the tollerences in the pumps are soo tight (0.000001mm ish) that any lack of lunbrication causes them to literely fall to peices, and when that happens you have to replace every single component on the fuel system exept the tank, which needs extencive flushing, which costs thousands. (looking at about £2000 for the pupm and £1k for each injector)Your car will have a saftey strategy instaled in the PCM to prevent run dry, this will start with the fuel light, then the car will intentionaly start missfiring, to simulate running out of fuel, then it will cut out, and wont start. Some systems will let you restart on refueling, some require a trip to the main dealer with expencive computer restting treatments.And its not as simple as calling out the RAC or even bleeding the systme yourself. Old DI systems could be bleed by cracking the injectors off yes.But its really not adviseable, as the pressures behingd them are high, but on common rail injection you will have apporx 350 bar of pressure behind each injector, and if that gets out it has the power to literealy cut through the bonnet, your hand, anything it can get near. Bleeding TDCi is a process that need special equipment to do correctly, and is usually don through the leak off part of the fueling.In short its not worth it. by fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 You sound like you know what you're talking about, so forgive my ignorance if this is the case... but why does my 2007 diesel engine have no problem doing this every week or so (company car, dont mind!) and just refuelling after a quick jet down the air intake?it's a 1.9 as well, so it's hardly the smallest diesel engine in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) Just get someone to drive you to the petty station to fill up a can?edit: if it's a diesel, don't let it run out becuase it will suck all the crap through and you have to bleed the tank. Edited February 14, 2008 by James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Why run it to empty though? In the long run you're doing it no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 why does my 2007 diesel engine have no problem doing this every week or soHave you considered maybe filling up slightly before running out of fuel, to save ever having to fanny around under the bonnet with a can of easystart? Call me plain crazy or old fashioned but it's a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Easy start, your f**king brave.If I was you I would bin it straight away, especiaily on a new car, they have special strategies and methods in them to prevent the need for all that.Easy start is excessivly bad, it washes all oil out the bores, so all the time your using it, you a running your engine with no oil for the pistons.It runins any in line sensors it comes accross, it causes pinking and detonation in the engine, which not only causes it to run very hot, very bad when your coolant is stone cold and not flowing, it also leaves loads of carbon deposits on your valves, if these get big enough the valves wont close, thus no compression and no running. Ive seen a well working engine destroyed because of the use of easy start.The only way to keep your car working these days is to leave them well alone, just service and thats it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONGO Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 DONT DO ITBongo your thinkning of the Wrong type of Diesel injection System.I'm thinking of the right system for the one i'm talking about... 2004 TDCI focus, 2001 TDDI mondeo, 2000 1.8 transit. They're the ones i have done it on. Nobody said it's advisable, and i'm not, but it's how i've done it, and how the AA have done it when i first learnt by watching them and asking so that they didn't have to come out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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