lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 ok i was in the middle of building my ninja up for the london ride, only problem is where one of the bb cups (non drive side) has came out and when looking at the bb straight on you can see that the bb is now at a angle and i cannot fit in the cup also with the bb cup the thread does not go right to the end theres a gap of about 2mm so my guess is that i have to pop the cup in and then tighten it any ideas of how to get this cup in cheers rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 take the entire BB out and start again.I always put the non-drive side in a few turns then put the drive side/main bb body in. this way the non drive side cup keeps the BB going in straight but doesn't stop it going in all the way. If that makes sense. Once the main bodys in fully then tighten up the non-drive side all the way. Jobs a goodun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 cheers james very much appreciated for a quick response just need to find a bb tool haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Full stops, jeeees!I don't really understand, owing to the way the text just flows there, like a sea, roaring along, small children swimming happily, enjoying themselves... Do you mean the whole cup is angled? Or just the axle? Have you accidentally rethreaded the BB shell at an angle? Is it a new BB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 the axle is wonky. its a fsa platinum DH bb its longer than the average bb as well. the bb was put in around easter 07 and never been touched after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 the axle is wonky. its a fsa platinum DH bb its longer than the average bb as well. the bb was put in around easter 07 and never been touched after thatSo the Axle is wonky but the BB shell is okay and it's screwed in on the driveside okay, you just cant get the non driveside cup in? I can't see why the axle would be wonky if you've screwed the shell in correctly, which sort of screams out that you haven't screwed the shell in properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Unlikely, but a bent axle? Loose bearing cups meaning the axle can move freely inside the body? Sounds strange, can you get pictures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 give me a few mins il get pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I snapped one of those BB axles, so it's likely that you've maybe done the same? or wrecked the bearings or something...Does it still feel smooth? Doesn't make weird noises, creaks, squeeks, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 the axle still runs smooth just like the day i got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Axle looks ok to me? That plastic cup is hard to get in anyway, but you'll need a BB tool if you don't have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 can i still do what james said at the start take it out and put the non drive side cup in a bit and then do the drive side that way it cannot go wonky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Yep, don't put it in very far, just enough so the inside of the BB touches it a little to guide it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Can't actually see anything wrong with it?Does it feel weird when you pedal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 never felt weird when i pedalled. il take it to a mate whos got a proper tool instead of what joe maher said (hammer and screwdriver lol)thanks for the time and effort of helping me, jake you going london at the weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 A hammer and screwdriver will snap that plastic cup like, well plastic getting hit with a hammer.And no, no Landan town for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I would say I'd do it for you man but unfortunatly I'm at work all the way up to the london ride. How are you planning on getting a working rear brake with your dodgy mounts? Any way good luck man, if you can't get it working ill lash you my video cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 well if i can find a bb tool then il come but i want some phat pads but birdmans got mine so may have to pm mike s and see if hes got n e layin around, as for my dodgy mounts well couple zip ties prob, it worked before didnt it, if i cant get the trials bike working may just come on the xc beast and still film. and yeah if you can charge you cam simp that would be cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 ok just went to my lbs and he gave me the tool i took the bb completely out, then done up the non drive side slightly and then the drive side only problem is i could not both cups completely in due to the tightness and the cups rounding off any suggestions, i have tried to put the cranks on but as the cups are not fully in the cranks are tight to turn and not enough thread with the bolt to keep them tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 ok just went to my lbs and he gave me the tool i took the bb completely out, then done up the non drive side slightly and then the drive side only problem is i could not both cups completely in due to the tightness and the cups rounding off any suggestions, i have tried to put the cranks on but as the cups are not fully in the cranks are tight to turn and not enough thread with the bolt to keep them tight.Doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with the BB other than you rounding off the edges. And that would pretty much make it unusable unless you make some funky home made non-IS fitting. It just needs to go in tight, it's meant to be tight as it has to be completely still in the shell, think of it like fitting a pressed headset but with thread, thats how tight it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 both cups are tight but theres stil thread out side the frame and i didnt wanna brake the tool as its not mine looking at it though imo the non drive side cup is more out than the drive side, so if i can get that in a little bit more than i can run it as i only wanna go london and hopefully be getting a new frame and bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 both cups are tight but theres stil thread out side the frame and i didnt wanna brake the tool as its not mine looking at it though imo the non drive side cup is more out than the drive side, so if i can get that in a little bit more than i can run it as i only wanna go london and hopefully be getting a new frame and bbYeah, the plastic cup needs to go in, as that can hang over the axle so you can't put on a crankarm, get that plastic cup in! The bike shop tool would probably have been made of steel, and your BB, some alloy; BB would probably break first anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 i can put the cranks on but its just not on all the way if you get me if the bb brakes than it brakes im only riding the frame once or twice till i get a new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 what width is you actuall bb shell 68 or 73mm? and what was the make and model of the bb?if its a 68 mm shell and its an fsa bb its probs because its a multi size bb and your missing the spacer so it'll fit a 68mm shell, that would explain the 2mm or of thread showing and why it wouldnt go in all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lankyri Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 its longer than the average bb because of the chain stays being so short- 365mm the bb has to be longer the bb is a fsa platinum dh isis bb think there like 50 odd quid off CRC and no there was no spacers that came out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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