Cross Lacing

[Boswell]

I have just bought a 36 hole fly rim which needs to be cross laced and need advise and/or insrtructions on how to do it. PS. i need to know soon so don't say "go to BMX forum" please.

[NileBrown™]

Cross lacing? as in 2X, 3X and 4X etc?

*go to bmx forum* lol

[Boswell]

Cross lacing? as in 2X, 3X and 4X etc?

*go to bmx forum* lol

I don't really know It just says it needs to be cross laced on the label.

[The Duck]

Well it needs a number in front, they can't just say cross laced.

Theres a wheel building guide in the wiki, so when you find out, go there.

[psycholist]

What they mean more than likely is that instead of lacing the spokes from say the right flange to the holes offset to the right of the rim centreline you lace them to the holes offset to the left. This gives the wheel more lateral strength. Most rims can't be laced this way as it causes the spoke nipples to bind in the rim. The usual spoke crossing patterns with a number still apply - with a 36 hole rim you can lace up to 4X usually without locking in the heads of the next spokes over, just make sure you leave the valve hole between two parallel spokes.

Edited February 6, 2008 by psycholist

[Tom_]

the outbound spokes, should cross the spokes, if three cross you should lace the spoke over the first two spokes then lace it undrneath the third spoke, 2,3,4 cross obviously refers to the number of spokes it crosses, just interlace under neath the last spoke on each one.

Look up the wiki though itl be a fair bit easier.

[Dan6061]

Just means you shouldn't radial lace it. - Weak as anything for a backwheel anyway.

3 or 4 cross will be strong enough, just find a spoke calculator and get the right spokes for whatever lacing pattern you want!

[Boswell]

Just means you shouldn't radial lace it. - Weak as anything for a backwheel anyway.

3 or 4 cross will be strong enough, just find a spoke calculator and get the right spokes for whatever lacing pattern you want!

3 or 4 cross? What does that mean? which one is easiest to build? How do I work it out? Thanks mate now i'm finally getting somewhere.

[JonMack]

http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....showtopic=80777

http://www.gsportbmx.com/tech/guide_wheelbuilding.php

Read both, and download this...

http://ponkan.quickshareit.com/share/wheel...ng_10147354.pdf

Edited February 6, 2008 by JonMack

[Boswell]

I just took a look at a picture of a built one and figured out the pattern.

[steve@banbury-trials]

3 or 4 cross? the number of times spokes cross eachover between the hub and the rim

What does that mean? ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

which one is easiest to build? i would say they are about the same,once you get building you just follow the pattern really

How do I work it out? if you go onto dt spokes website they hav a free spoke calculator that you can use,all you have to do is fill in the hub and rim details and how many cross's you want and it'll figure it out for you.

steve

[Boswell]

As I said I just looked at a picture of one of the built wheels and worked out the pattern.

[Tomm]

I'm pretty sure this is the only answer in this thread that's correct:

What they mean more than likely is that instead of lacing the spokes from say the right flange to the holes offset to the right of the rim centreline you lace them to the holes offset to the left. This gives the wheel more lateral strength. Most rims can't be laced this way as it causes the spoke nipples to bind in the rim. The usual spoke crossing patterns with a number still apply - with a 36 hole rim you can lace up to 4X usually without locking in the heads of the next spokes over, just make sure you leave the valve hole between two parallel spokes.

Just do it 3x -there's no real point in doing anything else. Read up about it if you want, but it's easier just to trust me. But bear in mind what Psycholist has said.

[poopipe]

I'm pretty sure this is the only answer in this thread that's correct:

Just do it 3x -there's no real point in doing anything else. Read up about it if you want, but it's easier just to trust me. But bear in mind what Psycholist has said.

somebody cleverer than me said you dont do 4x on a 36 hole rim . it should be 3x

[dan more]

simple question why dont you go to a bike shop and get them to build it you can garentee a good build and a trew wheel and no problems

[JonMack]

I built my own wheel because I don't know/trust any of the shops round here and as it's a CK hub and a Try All rim I wanted to make sure it was being treated with care so I did it myself.

[Danny Kearns]

Wheelbuilding's easy. Bike-Shops charge far to much. My first one i ever did took em best part of 3 hours. Never had any problems with this wheel.

Now i've doen about 10 wheels, can build and tension and true one all in around an hour.

Just make sure your doing to right amount of cross's and you have the right length spokes.

Danny.

[Gavyn.]

I thought cross lacing was where the holes on the rim are offset and instead of building it left side hole - left side spoke, it was left side spoke to right hand hole. it should be 3-4 cross it won't really matter which

[Danny Kearns]

I thought cross lacing was where the holes on the rim are offset and instead of building it left side hole - left side spoke, it was left side spoke to right hand hole. it should be 3-4 cross it won't really matter which

Thats how i build all my wheels. I thought when you do left side spoke to left hole that was classed as radial lacing ? I've always found my spokes to long when i try try left spoke left hole.

Danny.

[Jake]

Thats how i build all my wheels. I thought when you do left side spoke to left hole that was classed as radial lacing ? I've always found my spokes to long when i try try left spoke left hole.

Danny.

Radial lacing is like that, but the main point of radial is that none of the spokes cross over eachother, so when the spokes come from the flanges they are at a right angle to both the hub and rim, straight up.