BenLeacock™ Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 When i went to the Blackpool trial. Danny Swindlehurst had it. oh my god, THE best brake ever.Never seen/heard anything like it, only problem was, killed his pistons Danny.Dan had his in rimjam backings though dan. He went throught 12 pistons in the month he was using them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Rim jams sit so snuggly though......so all the vibrations go through the piston arms and bobs your uncle SNAP!any pad material in the heatsink backings are fine dave x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum-Luvs-Trials Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 chers for help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Thats funny why do they do them for vees but not for cnc magura backins?Cheers for the surport.Because we found out years ago (did CNC backings in '99), that grippy pad material with metal backing = too much stress on plastic nipple that holds pad. Fine if you keep your brakes set so that there is not much travel from pad to rim, but the further the piston has to push out before pad engages rim.... the higher the stress on the plastic nipple that holds pad.All tests showed that metal backing, while feeling more solid, does not actually increase braking power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantham Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 i've been riding heatsink snowies for about 2 years now, wouldn't run anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) good luck getting the plaz pads out. It's not hard .Just put the pads on a baking tray in the oven o like 140-160 degrees. The glue will disintigrate long before anything happens to the pads material, and the material just pulls out the backings .Don't leave them, though - i did, and melted my pads - just stay at the oven and check them every couple of minutes. You'll only be waiting 10 minutes at the most.Cheers,Joe. Edited February 6, 2008 by joe b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigMackay Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Not trying to sound like a tit here, but I've done it and funnily enough its just like having plazmatics but the feel on the lever is stiffer. Performance doesn't really change as they're good pads anyway!Not worth all the extra effort when you can buy reds and cousts which work better in the wet as well as the dry.Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Because we found out years ago (did CNC backings in '99), that grippy pad material with metal backing = too much stress on plastic nipple that holds pad. Fine if you keep your brakes set so that there is not much travel from pad to rim, but the further the piston has to push out before pad engages rim.... the higher the stress on the plastic nipple that holds pad.All tests showed that metal backing, while feeling more solid, does not actually increase braking power.Was just about to say... I guess most of the people on here had no idea about trials back then. How did the original plaz alu backings hold on to the slaves, just out of interest? O-ring in groove design just like the kolpen/heatsink design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Blackwell Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Ive just put plazzies in my cnc backings about a week ago, The hold is the same i would say, bite is maybe the slightest better, but the sound OH MY GOD they sound amazing extreamly loud and sharp i love them and thats on a dead light grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NileBrown™ Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 I always recomend cnc heatsink reds to every one........best pads ever ........loud...awsome hold....mental power and verry good bite ......better than plaz in my opinionIve got the heatsink reds in heatsink vee backings, will this be AS good as the magura? as in loud, mental power and very good bite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Ive got the heatsink reds in heatsink vee backings, will this be AS good as the magura? as in loud, mental power and very good bite?I never got a chance to try Heatsink Reds when I ran a magura () but on my vee they were ridiculously good - on par with Cousts I would sayThey weren't too loud, which was nice, bite and hold were silly good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 i would have thought so as its in metal backings .pad is the same so yeah should be mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 (edited) How did the original plaz alu backings hold on to the slaves, just out of interest? O-ring in groove design just like the kolpen/heatsink design?Yes, O-ring. The issue is that you can't use too large an O-ring (squish and twist issues) to absorb stress. Therefore, under sudden high stress (pedal kicks come to mind) situations the reletively small O-ring squishes to point of alumium (no dampening qualities) being the main instrument of pressure (hence, force absorbtion is negated).They looked cool, and felt great. And under the majority of cirumstances worked great..........but there was enough percentage of time that cofidence in durability/longevity did not leave us comfortable.For those who read instructions and warnings, they are great..... Edited February 8, 2008 by Tim/Trialsin USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Final result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Final result PICSWell done on getting your 1st set of pads transplanted into Heatsink CNC backing! I'm sure it will be easy next time, now that you know how I hope the Plazmatic / Heatsink CNC combo works well (which I'm sure it will!)Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Thats gona be a killer combo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum-Luvs-Trials Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Took a while for them to get used to the grind but am so pleased.The noise they make what to make me orgasim.I recomend this to any one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Heatsink...if i was to get a pair of cnc backings for my £6 pads would that be ok ?....And would the cnc backings be the same width as power pad backings ( rim to small for frame power pad backings are just the write width now though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Heatsink...if i was to get a pair of cnc backings for my £6 pads would that be ok ?....And would the cnc backings be the same width as power pad backings ( rim to small for frame power pad backings are just the write width now though To fit the £6 pads into CNC backings you'll need to trim off about 0.5mm from one end, plus cut back the middle a little. I ought to post some photos on my site showing the mod required. That would show clearly how simple it is!The pad cavity on the CNC backings has been designed to accommodate all the variety of slight variations in pad lengths due to the Magura backings vs Powerpad ones. As a result the cavity is slightly shorter than some longer pads to ensure a snug fit can be achieved.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 To fit the £6 pads into CNC backings you'll need to trim off about 0.5mm from one end, plus cut back the middle a little. I ought to post some photos on my site showing the mod required. That would show clearly how simple it is!The pad cavity on the CNC backings has been designed to accommodate all the variety of slight variations in pad lengths due to the Magura backings vs Powerpad ones. As a result the cavity is slightly shorter than some longer pads to ensure a snug fit can be achieved.SteveOk Cheers steve..so the width of the backings are the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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