Pashley26 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) Right dumbasses quoting me saying it's a "disgusting comment", I am a human being not an animal brought into life soley to provide people with sustainance with a life span of a couple of weeks.Also these animals are born into these conditions therefore they have no reason to say it's bad conditions as they have no idea of anything different.Twat...Battery hens are kept alive for 5-6 years, with 4 of them in a 3 foot square cage.Thats quite a long life ?The fact that they are animals dosen't make it right. EDIT...Do you have any pets ?Jarrod Edited January 12, 2008 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredrico Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Right dumbasses quoting me saying it's a "disgusting comment", I am a human being not an animal brought into life soley to provide people with sustainance with a life span of a couple of weeks.Also these animals are born into these conditions therefore they have no reason to say it's bad conditions as they have no idea of anything different.So if a human was born into bad conditions they shouldnt get help because they dont know any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 If it taste's good then i'll eat it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boswell Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 So if a human was born into bad conditions they shouldnt get help because they dont know any different?That is very interesting i surpose you could look at it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 (edited) Slightly out of context comparing an animal with limited intelligence to the human beings that have spread across the globe creating massive cities.Plus Boswell you may want to look closer at what I said.Chickens for eating have a lifespan of a matter of weeks, we aren't talking about the egg producers.Edit: And yes Jarrod I do have cats. Edited January 12, 2008 by ZeroMatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Slightly out of context comparing an animal with limited intelligence to the human beings that have spread across the globe creating massive cities.Plus Boswell you may want to look closer at what I said.Chickens for eating have a lifespan of a matter of weeks, we aren't talking about the egg producers.Edit: And yes Jarrod I do have cats.Right, i'm going to lock your cats up in darkness and make them live in there own shit ? Then after a few years i'm going to hang them upside down and slit there throats ?Jarrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Would any of you kill for food? Like actually skin and eat something you've killed yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boswell Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Right, i'm going to lock your cats up in darkness and make them live in there own shit ? Then after a few years i'm going to hang them upside down and slit there throats ?JarrodFilm it and bring out a DVD "Cat hostel" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) Fine by me mate you'd be the one getting locked up for cruelty as what's the purpose? Unless of course you plan to eat/sell on the meats I'd be fine with it.Edit: Yes I have done Mr Fish Edited January 13, 2008 by ZeroMatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Would any of you kill for food? Like actually skin and eat something you've killed yourself?Yes, but you only kill food in that way in the wild. Where food hasn't been treated at all, and has had a good natural life. I've eaten a Pheasent that i skinned myself if that counts ?Jarrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Just thought how much this reminds me of this vegan. He's such a dickhead, not saying you lot are, but the arguements he comes up with are pathetic. It's food, and either way they are going to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) Fine by me mate you'd be the one getting locked up for cruelty as what's the purpose? Unless of course you plan to eat/sell on the meats I'd be fine with it.So it's alright for me to be cruel to your animals as long as i sell them for meat when i've finished with them....You f**king doosh.So when's Tigger arriving then ? I've got the caged all warmed up ?Jarrod Edited January 13, 2008 by Pashley26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yes because in order to get the meat you have to kill them which is cruel is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yes because in order to get the meat you have to kill them which is cruel is it not?But you've just told us it's fine to kill animals becouse there going to die anyway !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 You will never eat a male chicken, EVERY male chicken in the food industry is Gassed and then put through a mincer and made into Burgers (yes beef burgers too) and Frankfurters ?f**king skank.I sound like such a hippy...JarrodWRONG! the male chicks that got gassed were from the batchs of chicks that were destined for egg production! and no they are not made into beef burgers! the chicks that were gassed were used to feed birds of prey and reptiles etc in zoo's etc!I should know this as i (my family) have grown meat chickens and currently have 2000 free range egg producing chickens! and have been involved in farming for 21 years! (btw i am 21!)Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 But you've just told us it's fine to kill animals becouse there going to die anyway !!! Yes I did indeed just say that. If you intend to eat an animal it needs to be killed at somepoint, my point is that they were destined to be killed to be eaten from birth and you have to kill the animal before it dies from old age or you can get substandard meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 WRONG! the male chicks that got gassed were from the batchs of chicks that were destined for egg production! and no they are not made into beef burgers! the chicks that were gassed were used to feed birds of prey and reptiles etc in zoo's etc!I should know this as i (my family) have grown meat chickens and currently have 2000 free range egg producing chickens! and have been involved in farming for 21 years! (btw i am 21!)AdamBut they did get made into Frankfurters and that skanky MRM meat ? Wich eventually goes into Rustler burgers and other cheap burgers ? Regardless of wether they were male or female, late on in the Documentry they had them on the Conveyer belt, where they were picking all of the males, or chicks with Little black bits on there ass and gassing them ? Jarrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Right I shan't be replying again in here as you are obviously not interested in seeing it any other way than that portrayed in a documentary designed to shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 late on in the Documentry they had them on the Conveyer belt, where they were picking all of the males, or chicks with Little black bits on there ass and gassing them ? JarrodIf you actualy listened to what they were saying! the ones they were picking out of the boxes/conveyer with the black bits on there arses were ones that had not consumed the whole of the egg yoke (The black bit was the un-consumed egg yoke), no matter whether they were male or female! ( I have actualy been to that hatchery by the way!)Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 some people don't deserve opinions.biggie, care to give us an industry standpoint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Ok, you obviously know more about this than me. What sort of Farming are you involved in ?I Can't believe the sort of things they put the MRM meat in though ! I used to live on Rustler burgers Jarrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 some people don't deserve opinions.biggie, care to give us an industry standpoint?Maybe later when more sober.......Ok, you obviously know more about this than me. What sort of Farming are you involved in ?I Can't believe the sort of things they put the MRM meat in though ! I used to live on Rustler burgers JarrodYeh, i agree MRM meat goes into alot of shite, but then again you can get mrm meat from everything!I have been involved in sheep, chicken (eggs and meat), beef and dairy cattle, i have basicly been involved with pretty much most types of farming.....Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Sure man, well wait till your sober...I'd be really interested to know, because as you can see it's something thats really blitzed my brain ! Jarrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Ive seen on tele where chickens are stuff int o confined spaces and tubes shoved down there throughts and pumped full of food. And there throughts swell up from the tubes being put down and there stomachs swell and expand form being fattened so much. I dont things are fair on farmers, but if things where all free range and chickens had rights or something and where treated good, would there be enough checkens to feed us???? Think how britain is we moan about it not being fair on the chickens but if it all changed there proberly wouldnt be enough and then everyone would be going mad about that createing another problem. And you have to also think that it would be applied to all animals createing a even bigger problem and forcing supermarkets to do other things. I think we all have to accept that as much as we dont like it that as things are like they are because of the huge demand we have as customers on supermarkets and them wanting to be cheaper than other ones because we wont buy fromt hem otherwise. I think standards should be risen though and things changed for farmers and rules put in where they are payed fairly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandamna Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 What about that chicken farming, but its not horrible farming, it was the second option on the program last night, the mass production, but they have toys to play with and perches to sit on, so that they are no quite free ranged, but they arnt horribly farmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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