trials_pimp Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Im looking at buying a new TV for the Crib.Currently got a 32" TV.Its just your standard TV, fat grey and shows moving pictures.Looking into these new LCD or plasma options, whats the gains of either.Also is it worth going for a TV with 1080 dpi, and why should I pay extra for that (whats it do)I want 32" - 40" Screen, not sure if I should get LCD or Plasma. Seen sets ranging from £400-£1k but what should i look for?I have an Xbox 360 and Virgin Media that will need to work with it..Also Does having HDMI ports mean its a HD tv? or is that what the Whole 1080dpi is all about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 A BIG ONE !Big tvs are great.Jarrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 i just got a second hand hyundai q321 lcd 32" off ebay recently, after the initial teething issues i have it set up and im very happy with it, just bought a wall mount for it too to clear some floor space, i only payed £175 so id definitely reccomend having a look around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Also is it worth going for a TV with 1080 dpi, and why should I pay extra for that (whats it do)There are two main different kinds of HD - 720 and 1080 (and it's not dpi by the way ). It basically means the resolution - 720 means 1280*720, and 1080 means 1920*1080. So you can see there's a pretty big difference between the two standards, with one being 0.92megapixels and the other being 2.07 (I.e. twice the resolution). To compare, non-HD TVs are 720*576. So if you want full HD, it has to be 1080. But you will pay quite a lot more for that, and I think I'm right in saying that you have to get something bigger than 32" for 1080 (Up to 32" you only get 720). But blu-ray and HD-DVD will still work fine on 720 screens, you just don't get the full effect. I'm not sure how much difference this really makes though.HDMI is the input - it's just a type of connector. But yes, it's designed for HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An_toin3 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 and I think I'm right in saying that you have to get something bigger than 32" for 1080 (Up to 32" you only get 720). But blu-ray and HD-DVD will still work fine on 720 screens, you just don't get the full effect. I'm not sure how much difference this really makes though.got to say you're wrong here !, i've just bought a 32" hdtv and it's the only one that does 1080 for that size ! Sharp Aquos 32" definitely worth looking into that ! awesome tv for the price I got it ! 899$ CAd don't know how much it is for you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 There are two main different kinds of HD - 720 and 1080 (and it's not dpi by the way ). It basically means the resolution - 720 means 1280*720, and 1080 means 1920*1080. So you can see there's a pretty big difference between the two standards, with one being 0.92megapixels and the other being 2.07 (I.e. twice the resolution). To compare, non-HD TVs are 720*576. So if you want full HD, it has to be 1080. But you will pay quite a lot more for that, and I think I'm right in saying that you have to get something bigger than 32" for 1080 (Up to 32" you only get 720). But blu-ray and HD-DVD will still work fine on 720 screens, you just don't get the full effect. I'm not sure how much difference this really makes though.HDMI is the input - it's just a type of connector. But yes, it's designed for HD.Just to let you know you can get 1080p as small as 24" If you've got up to £1000 to spend I'd definitely reccomend a decent 32"+ inch LCD with 1080p support.I think LCD are generally more accepted than Plasma screens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hI-OOPS-CAPS Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 just be sure to get a one with a good warranty/guarantee, like from fenwicks or costcoi know of 5 people with hd tvs and 4 have to had theirs replaced because of failures,mate got one from costco for 470£ a 32" samsung HD, its got hdmi ports which i think are needed for xbox and ps3that was a while ago at this time you could probably get bit more for your money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 HDMI is only needed for playing copyrighted HD content I think (I.e. Blu-ray/HD-DVD). But you can use it for connecting anything if you want. The xbox360 / PS3 will attach via component leads - you have to pay extra for the HDMI leads and not all xboxs are capable of HDMI-output anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Just bought a sony 40" W series LCD telly. It came with a free PS3 (unfortunately i think its only an Australian deal). HDMI isn't necessary but apparently if you own a ps3 you are missing out big time if you don't use HDMI. I heard it looksmuch better, I'm still waiting for the ps3 to come so I can't compare it to the normal cables. The TV is great though definitely recommend it if its within your budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An_toin3 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Just bought a sony 40" W series LCD telly. It came with a free PS3 (unfortunately i think its only an Australian deal). HDMI isn't necessary but apparently if you own a ps3 you are missing out big time if you don't use HDMI. I heard it looksmuch better, I'm still waiting for the ps3 to come so I can't compare it to the normal cables. The TV is great though definitely recommend it if its within your budget.yep HDMI is essential with a ps3 to have the best results !, that's the main reason I bought an HDTV ! to use it for my ps3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 So I should go for a TV thats got 1080.From what Ive read 1080p is better that 1080i (interlaced and De-interlaced) as it displays each frame sequencialy.Right now I have some sort of Idea I shall hence forth and look for a nice TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Samsung > all other budget high def TVs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 I shit you not, you need look no further than.... the Samsung LE32R87BDIt's in my opinion, one of the best looking ranges of tv's available. It has built in freeview, and also encorporates a day by day on-screen tv guide so you can plan everything you want to watch etc..Has a swivel stand, which is awesome and not on all 32" lcd tv's. It has 3x HDMI inputs, aswell as digital opitcal audio output and componant inputs. It is also 1080i as you wanted. Seriously, it's the best thing i've ever bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Ive been liking the Samsung Tvs anyway, think thats what Ill get. They are pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofreak Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 If a TV says it can display a 1080i image, it's actually downscaling it to 1280x720. You are much better of using the 720p option on these screens. Only a 1080p screen will display a resolution of 1920x1080.Those Samsung TV's are great, I have last years version of that and it's outstanding.IMO 1080p is a complete waste unless you have a huge screen or are sitting really close to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 If a TV says it can display a 1080i image, it's actually downscaling it to 1280x720. You are much better of using the 720p option on these screens. Only a 1080p screen will display a resolution of 1920x1080.Are you sure about that? I thought they were both the same resolution, the p and the i were just the way it's produced (p = progressive, i = interlaced)?I might be wrong though.EDIT: Er, it's well confusing. You're kind of right, 1080p is better than i. Google it if you wanna hear loads of geeks argue about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Are you sure about that? I thought they were both the same resolution, the p and the i were just the way it's produced (p = progressive, i = interlaced)?I might be wrong though.EDIT: Er, it's well confusing. You're kind of right, 1080p is better than i. Google it if you wanna hear loads of geeks argue about it.Thats what I thought. It's just progressive scanning instead of interlaced on the same inch of pixels surely? 2 and a half years on a multimedia course, you'd think i'd know this conclusively haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) Okay, theoretically 1080p is better, but at the minute theres nothing to make use of it. No tv broadcasts will be 1080p any time in the near future and so a 1080p would just be upscaling a 1080i signal anyway. 1080i every alternate line on the screen is drawn at one point, then the other half drawn straight after (it happens super fast so we don't see it), 1080p everything is drawn at once. The only time you'll really notice is amazingly fast speed moving objects, but even then its quite hard to spot if you don't know what your looking for.Basically unless your going for a monster screen at over 50-60" and upwards you won't notice the difference between 1080i and 1080p. Anything under that and 1080i looks far better than 720p, though not quite in the same league as the jump from dvd to 720p. Edited January 10, 2008 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofreak Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 What I meant was that most TV's that advertise they can do 1080i don't actually have a resolution of 1920x1080.For example, the TV James posted has a resolution of 1368x768. It can display 1080i by downscaling the picture. IMO on these TV's you are better using 720p because that is closer to the TV's native resolution and the TV isn't having to do any extra work to dowscale the picture.If an advert for a TV is boasting about being able to do 1080i then chances are it doesn't actually do 1920x1080 otherwise it was just say 1080p.Hope that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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