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Police woman gave us a lecture blah blah blah blah - you know the story.

Anyway, becuase i shout my head off at police vans for not indicating, it's kind of hypocritical of me not getting lights when they tell me. So i'm looking for some of those really little tiny lights, little led ones, can anyone suggest some? :)

Also, i was the only rider wearing a helmet. We all had no lights. She seemed much more concerned about us not having lights then the other two not wearing a helmet. Which do you think would keep you safer?

Does having lights when riding though a relativly well lit town on a quiet winter night make much of a difference?

Interesting discussion, the police woman wasn't up for much of a debate though, but i know TF is. ;)

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Police woman gave us a lecture blah blah blah blah - you know the story.

Anyway, becuase i shout my head off at police vans for not indicating, it's kind of hypocritical of me not getting lights when they tell me. So i'm looking for some of those really little tiny lights, little led ones, can anyone suggest some? :)

Also, i was the only rider wearing a helmet. We all had no lights. She seemed much more concerned about us not having lights then the other two not wearing a helmet. Which do you think would keep you safer?

Does having lights when riding though a relativly well lit town on a quiet winter night make much of a difference?

Interesting discussion, the police woman wasn't up for much of a debate though, but i know TF is. ;)

Surely wearing a helmet would be a lot safer!

i'd prefer them to inforce a helmet rule than a light rule,

as in a well lit town, obviously small lights arn't going to do much!

Ben

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Mate just told me to show you these

he's in NMC so he can't post here

Ebay Lights

Very swish.

Expensive though, don't actually need lights for my sake, just to keep the plods happy. Looking for the bare minimum.

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i bought a pair of lights that are held onto my frame by elastic band stlye clips from helfrauds for £20,the front wraps onto the handle bar and the rear is inside my seatstay so its out the way.

as for the helmets ,there should be a law or something about wearing them,also i feel its incorrect that there are bike videos out there and the rider arent waring helmets (N) what sort of example is that?

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as for the helmets ,there should be a law or something about wearing them,also i feel its incorrect that there are bike videos out there and the rider arent waring helmets (N) what sort of example is that?

I thought it is illigal to not wear a helmet?

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A few points-

1. Use of a helmet is not legally enforcable, bikes are relatively 'safe' in that they are low speed. Yes, as a road user you could get hit by a car and may well need a helmet, but so could a pedestrian.

2. Clipping lights to your jeans could still land you a fine/prosecution as the wording of the law states that your bike, not your backside, should be fitted with a light.

3. Other than the woman not being able to enforce wearing lid, she was probably going on the lines of if you have lights you won't get squashed and need a helmet.

4. If you're on a pedestrianised area, shop front, whatever it is that is not a public road, footpath or right of way, she can't do jack anyway as it's the Road Traffic Act i believe that states the rules on lights, reflectors, bells etc. So if you're not on an adopted road then it doesn't apply. Info regarding the extent of highway in your favourite riding spots can be had from the local council thanks to the ever-so-wonderful FOI act.

Edit:

its a joke, they said the same to us when we where riding down the path in Guisbrough, with a cycle path on it

A cycle path is adopted under the highways act so rules on lights and bells etc still count.

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JT!

go to halfords for £4.95 you can get one frog light , the frog lights are like the ones on chain reactions but are completly covered a in a bouncy rubber compound so if you fall they are not damaged . i have been using them for aobut 2 months and i love them they must weight about 10 grams in all honesty there brilliant .

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Haha, no thanks, i'd rather they be on the bike.

Don't think i can go wrong with these http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5765.

You can, and thats because these ones are far cheaper.... front, back

Same thing, can be wrapped around a seatstay and the bars and you won't notice they're there. They don't need to be amazingly bright, they just need to work so you don't get moaned at again.

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Well police had a go at us just before christmas and took our bikes off us for one day because we had no lights so i have bought these really small but extremely bright led lights that are called frog lights which are rubber and just strap on ur handlebars. there kwl aswell as they dont get in ur way.

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Police kept on telling to put some lights on my bike, and i found that when I put some light they have to be quiet small because the big one just falls off after a few rides so i bought the small little lights from halfords but they last me like a week of two after that they brake due to bails ... iam now on my 3rd pair of light

So does anyone have the answer to my prolem ?

Dont want to steal your thread.

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Haha, no thanks, i'd rather they be on the bike.

Don't think i can go wrong with these http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=5765.

EXACTLY what I was goint to suggest, batteries last years and you can keep them attached to your keyring and use it as an emergency torch as well! Sell them in the shop I work in, can't go wrong with them! I lost mine though :(

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Police kept on telling to put some lights on my bike, and i found that when I put some light they have to be quiet small because the big one just falls off after a few rides so i bought the small little lights from halfords but they last me like a week of two after that they brake due to bails ... iam now on my 3rd pair of light

So does anyone have the answer to my prolem ?

Dont want to steal your thread.

I put the rear one on the inside side of my seat-stays so they can't get hit, and the other one goes on my cross-bar (on my BMX, so it won't get hit) or just before the bend on my risers so it's harder to hit. Either way, if you're riding at a spot, just take them off? If the police come up to you and give you aggro for not having lights, just whip 'em out of your pocket, say "Sorry, forgot to put them on", then everyone's happy, apart from the police who'll do you for criminal damage anyway.

On a side note, having a legally enforced helmet-wearing thing would be the worst idea, ever.

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You can, and thats because these ones are far cheaper.... front, back

Same thing, can be wrapped around a seatstay and the bars and you won't notice they're there. They don't need to be amazingly bright, they just need to work so you don't get moaned at again.

No where near as good battery life.

http://www.cyclesense.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b0s308p3119

I have some of these and they are really bright and don't look super gay!

They look pretty good actually, i'll look into them

be cheaper at guisbrough cycles always is :P :P

True.

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as for the helmets ,there should be a law or something about wearing them,also i feel its incorrect that there are bike videos out there and the rider arent waring helmets (N) what sort of example is that?

Why should it have to be an example? I've appeared in various BMX videos helmet-less. I don't go out filming to form an example or be a role model for people, I go out filming because I enjoy do it. It's irrelevant who's going to watch it. For the most part, the other people who watch it will probably be like-minded so it won't matter, but to be honest, even if some 3-year-old watched it and wanted to go out riding without a helmet (unlikely at best), that's their choice.

But yeah, main point from that: Why does a video have to 'set an example'? It's just documenting people doing what they enjoy, not being some kind of video version of the Ten Commandments.

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4. If you're on a pedestrianised area, shop front, whatever it is that is not a public road, footpath or right of way, she can't do jack anyway as it's the Road Traffic Act i believe that states the rules on lights, reflectors, bells etc. So if you're not on an adopted road then it doesn't apply. Info regarding the extent of highway in your favourite riding spots can be had from the local council thanks to the ever-so-wonderful FOI act.

So if i was just on a shop front, like a extra wide pavement, i couldn't get done for no lights etc, but could for riding on the pavement?

How come you don't wear a helmet mark?

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