Decade Ago Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 So Ive had my stock Czar short built for a fortnight now, Ive been out on a couple of rides just relearning techniques and regaining my balance on things. It is a stunning bike to ride and I love it to bits, its now starting to feel like my bike. One thing I have felt is how hard it is to pull the front end up for rolling bunny hops, blunts, and manuals. Does anyone know any reasons why this should be the case? When Im doing pedal hops or gaps and just back hopping it feels superb, plenty of control and the front end feels very light and manoeuvrable. So when the front end is already up or you use a pedal kick to get it up it works perfect, when you just ride and pull up it feels very heavy.Am I just unfit and not used to the extra 3 stone on me, is the geo wrong or have i lost the technique for doing it?!The relevant parts are Echo tough bars, TMS welded stem 120mm with a 30 degree rise, Fatty R forks and a Czar Short frame....A pic if that helps...Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Maybe tilt your bars back a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 the stems too long, try something shorter and higher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_ Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Low front ends + High bbs = great on the backwheel etc, but they are not good for more streety things like bunnyhops etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decade Ago Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 the stems too long, try something shorter and higher?Probably a good place to start, anything you can recommend?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Low front ends + High bbs = great on the backwheel etc, but they are not good for more streety things like bunnyhops etc.Yeah... and that's the 'style' nowadays. Newer type trials frames aren't geared around bunnyhops and manuals, they are more 'specific' than their predecessors To help though you would ideally need a shorter stem, but still try and keep the height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Winton. Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Probably a good place to start, anything you can recommend??http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=127 short one of those maybe, its never going to feel "streety" i thought the same with my bike (toxsin 2 with long hifi stem) its no good for anything but trials specific moves sidehop/gap/tap etc..http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=10081that one looks ok too, allthough i wouldnt spend alot of money on one because like i said it could make it better but it will never feel properly streety and good for moves more suited to a short low bb bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 A shorter stem with greater rise will help, but it will affect other moves. Why don't you just learn to bunnyhop that bike, it's not impossible. People do that on Vincos, old Czars and GU's. As a matter of fact, your frame should be really easy to bunnyhop. I had a go on one not so long ago, hated every bit of it but it was really flicky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vee Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 i had the same problem, had my bars where u are, went from a limey (low bb) to a a2 (high) and felt weird had handlebars like yours, then moved em forward and its a new machine, pulls up loads easier than when they were further backand i know it goes against what it should be (the back= street, forward= balance) but it workedu could try that u never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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