Dave - www.sotrials.com Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) so im going to buy an onza sticky fingers rear tyre for my trials bike and wanted to know whats the big deal about them ? i heard they have a denser compound in the middle ? but do they actually make a big difference ?thx! Edited January 2, 2008 by Dave - www.sotrials.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 dont, they are shit, your much better off with maxxis creepy crawlers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Get A Maxxis creepy Crawler best performing tire Creepy Crawler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave - www.sotrials.com Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 thanks for the quick replies ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben H! Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 get maxxis creepy crawler's or monty eagle claw's but don't get onza sticky fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Smith Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I prefer Montys Eagle Claw, fantastic tyres , Ive run both montys and maxxis and Id say Monty. Thyre Beastly. Oh yer and onza theyre crap, dont bother with them. Either Maxxis or Monty.Oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Jennings Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 so im going to buy an onza sticky fingers rear tyre for my trials bike and wanted to know whats the big deal about them ? i heard they have a denser compound in the middle ? but do they actually make a big difference ?thx!They suck. Go for Try-All's or Creepy crawlers (slightly cheeper) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Hundley Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 maxxis all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly-Sam Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 I prefer Montys Eagle Claw, fantastic tyres , Ive run both montys and maxxis and Id say Monty. Thyre Beastly. Oh yer and onza theyre crap, dont bother with them. Either Maxxis or Monty.Olicommon mate i come on here for decent advice mate not to know stuff that has been and the other day you have 10 topics on first page mate !!!!!your cloging up the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave - www.sotrials.com Posted January 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 common mate i come on here for decent advice mate not to know stuff that has been and the other day you have 10 topics on first page mate !!!!!your cloging up the forumstop chatting ____ i dont know if your blind but if you look my friend has addes some topics too and i dont want to look at other peoples topic it says to get verified post good topics so thats what im doing ok ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanda Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 (edited) This was posted in a unicycle forum I read. The guy that posted it, also posts here as Sponge Maxxis Creepy CrawlerOne of the most popular trials tyres, especially for beginners. Designed by Dani Comas as a tyre to aid him and his teammates with super grip on natural terrain which the original Monty tyres were failing at.Grip- Second to none, as proven in previous biketrials world championships where these and Try-Alls were the only tyres were gripping on the wet mossy rock sections. Still grips OK in wet.Compound- 42a super tacky compound by Maxxis, extremely sticky and grippy, but can have a 'dragging' feeling.Bounce- Fairly decent, nothing particularly ground-breaking, but good. Soft and slow rebound. Depends on rider's own personal taste and tyre pressure. Wear-rate- Wears down quite quickly in comparison to other tyres like Try-All. Notorious in biketrials for wearing quickly.Sidewalls- My pet-hate feature of this tyre, the quality of the sidewall is horrid. Threads start appearing and many in biketrials have torn the sidewalls. Sidewalls are very thin and fold extremely easily which is why many top riders dislike this tyre as sometimes a preload for a no-prebounce gap can just 'loop out' because the sidewalls 'slip'. Very hard to explain, but this is the main reason why top riders stray away from this tyre.Pinch-resistance- In biketrials, let's just say people HATE this tyre's pinch resistance because the thin sidewalls crush the inner tube inside when they fold like mad. I've known riders on London bike rides to have had 4 pinch flats from Creepy Crawlers in one day. In uni, less is the case, but you may as well know the reputation for this tyre from the bike perspective...Overall: Get this tyre if you are on a budget, extremely cheap compared to some other tyres. The grip is really something you should be looking for when riding natural especially. If you like running your tyre at super hard pressures and ride natural, then this tyre is fine for you. For urban riders, this tyre still grips great in the wet, but it does wear a bit faster than other tyres. Try-All StikyAnother very popular tyre choice, but sadly at a comparatively high price. Extremely grippy, with an advantageous tread pattern.Grip- Very very good, the undisputed best for grip on wet round rails, the way the tyre is shaped on the corners with the low-profile side treads and the sidewall that sticks out slightly, it has great 'edge' grip on rails, which I was shocked to see when Joe was riding along a long wet round rail. Compound- Sticky stuff, not quite as draggy as the Creepy Crawler, but definitely one of the longest lasting treads compared to some other tyres. Wear-rate- surprisingly slow considering how grippy this is. Joe Hodges still has his one from around a year ago when he first got his Koxx sponsorship.Tread-pattern- one of the nicest features of this tyre, it is designed to flick out mud more effectively than the traditional 'block tread' style of most tyres. Looks great, grips extremely well on the edge of surfaces, biketrials riders LOVE this tyre.Bounce-like Marmite, this is love or hate... me and Joe used to hate the bounce of this tyre because it is so damn different in feel to tyres like the Monty Eagle Claw and Maxxis CC. But after a while, we got used to it and love the way it bounces. Extremely bouncy for sure, its hard and thick sidewalls give a hard rebound property making the bounce feel 'stiffer'.Sidewalls- extremely good sidewals, thick and a nice chunky wall of rubber. Much much nicer than CC or Eagle Claw sidewalls which rip and show threads. Makes this tyre perfect for shaving.Pinch resistance- pretty decent, not many biketrials riders complaining, definitely MUCH better than CCs on this front.Overall: Extremely nice tyre, with the highest construction quality over any other trials tyre. Amazing grip, innovative tread pattern, unique side-grip properties, decent pinch resistance, super long lasting... A great tyre for BOTH urban and natural riders... (a very rare feat).Monty Eagle ClawEssentially, this tyre is an upgrade of the Creepy Crawler. Same style of construction and improved in almost all areas.Grip- read Maxxis Creepy CrawlerWear-rate- lasts a decent amount of time, longer than the CC, but Try-All lasts longer for sure. Still damn impresseed.Sidewalls- like the CC's except a tad thicker and does not have the unreliable folding properties that can upset your preloads. Good stuff... however, my only criticism is that the sidewalls are still slightly 'papery' like the CC and threads poke through, makes it look cheap and feel cheap. Meh, no great loss.Pinch resitance- DAMN good, so damn good. Joe hardly ever got pinches with this tyre, and the biketrials people I ride with share the same view and experiences.Bounce- Insanely good, insanely... good... Joe's choice tyre for bounce. Again, bounce is very much down to personal preferance and tyre pressure.Overall: Really really really good tyre, in a nutshell: a Creepy Crawler with most of its flaws improved! Only criticism: papery sidewalls with threads poking through. A must for natural riders.Monty Elite/Atlas/Salmon wall/Yellow wall/White wallThe original style of Monty tyre, has been around for years and years but discontinued a few years ago. Great bounce, shit grip.Grip- ergh, not very good at all. It is shocking how badly it grips in the wet. Shall we just say that back about a year ago, me on a Creepy Crawler was beating Joe on an old school Monty at some wet natural because he was slipping so much. In the dry, it's fine. Compound- very funny compound that is SUPER soft, but not grippy... almost like foam?! Mmm...Wear-rate- Pretty decent, lasts a fair amount of time with most people, but not as good in this case as the Try-All. Similar to Eagle Claw in this case from my experience and many others'.Pinch resistance- read Monty Eagle Claw, very similar in this caseBounce- EXTREMELY stiff rebound properties due to the extra extra stiff sidewalls, this was the key feature of the tyre. I loved this tyre for bounce, and hundreds of bike riders would agree. But again, bounce is very much personal preference.Sidewalls- SUPER thick, and give a hard rebound, shame that threads start appearing over them making it look old extremely quickly.Overall: Very good if you plan on riding in the dry and on urban. Not so good for wet at all. However... vintage. Also... damn easy to get on and off rims!Echo (ALL-BLACK 2007/2008 onwards) and Onza Sticky FingersThese two tyres are the same model of tyre except the Onza has a coloured stripe down the middle (either redbrown or grey). This tyre is extremely underrated and not as bad as some may think. Joe Hodges used the Onza tyre to win his first British trials championship. Also, the Echo is THE choice tyre for British Biketrials urban riders. Not too great for natural or wet weather though...Grip- Nothing special at all... little bit better than the old school Monty tyre in this case(refer to old school Monty tyre review above)Tread pattern- very tightly packed blocks, and very stiff blocks at that! Not too great for grip compared to other tread patterns (e.g. Maxxis, Try-All, Eagle Claw)... but gives low rolling resistance so bike riders love it in this case.Bounce- Fairly decent actually, seriously. This is the main reason why biketrials riders are using the new Echo for urban... stiff reboundPinch resistace- Fine, nothing to worry about as much as Maxxis CC. Average... not terrible, not ground-breaking. Good enough for most riders.Compound- hard compound... low rolling resistance, but not so grippy in wet. Wears at a similar rate to Luna in past experience (pretty decent)...Sticky Finger's mid-tread compound is softer than the black compound so it wears a little faster.Overall: Great for urban riders, a nice alternative. But there are better... this is mainly a preferable tyre for biketrials riders. Not so good for natural at all! Similar to Luna in many respectsLunaAh, the Luna... before the Maxxis CC came out, this was the original beginner's tyre. Damn hard compound, solid construction. Loved by many uni riders... HATED by biketrials riders beyond belief. No one half-decent at biketrials really likes this tyre. Funny how these two worlds collide...This really is a love or hate tyre. I personally dislike it, many people on the otherhand love it. In a nutshell: Hard compound, stiff rebound, average pinch resistance, reasonable wear rate. But heavy as hell compared to other tyres. Low rolling resistance. Average grip. Also, a bitch to get on and off rims compared to some other tyres.There are a few other tyres out there, but are so damn rare now that no one really can use them. (e.g. Monty 2.7 and the original Echo Supatrial white-stripe). I'll get reviews of these up if anyone really wants.Regarding the BOUNCE issue... like I stated in many of the above reviews, it is down to personal preference. This is one factor that is variable, and different people will like different types of bounce. Some people hate the Try-All bounce whilst others love it. It's a matter of getting accustomed to different types of bounce. 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Krisboats Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 (edited) stop chatting ____ i dont know if your blind but if you look my friend has addes some topics too and i dont want to look at other peoples topic it says to get verified post good topics so thats what im doing ok ?It doesn't say make good topics to get verified. Make decent POSTS (ie, replies to topics) or make A decent topic up and theres more of a chance to get validated. You don't have to make thousands of posts, or thousands of topics. Being validated can be done in one single post.Why don't you make a topic that people will probably want to have discussions in? Something like the progression in aesthetics of bikes and parts, the possible future of geometries on frames, how people have individual styles in their riding and whether a style can be learned or whether its someones unique way of riding thats individual to them, or even try discussing how people mentally prepare themselves before they commit to making a big move when they're out riding?Just something with a bit more imagination than "which is better (insert generic item or person here) or (again, insert another generic item or person here)?"... or the old faithful "who can (insert move here) the furthest/heighest?"Stupid new members really wind me up. Edited January 3, 2008 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly-Sam Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 It doesn't say make good topics to get verified. Make decent POSTS (ie, replies to topics) or make A decent topic up and theres more of a chance to get validated. You don't have to make thousands of posts, or thousands of topics. Being validated can be done in one single post.Why don't you make a topic that people will probably want to have discussions in? Something like the progression in aesthetics of bikes and parts, the possible future of geometries on frames, how people have individual styles in their riding and whether a style can be learned or whether its someones unique way of riding thats individual to them, or even try discussing how people mentally prepare themselves before they commit to making a big move when they're out riding?Just something with a bit more imagination than "which is better (insert generic item or person here) or (again, insert another generic item or person here)?"... or the old faithful "who can (insert move here) the furthest/heighest?"Stupid new members really wind me up.some of your topic are good but pointless because some one has already asked these questions. if you took your time reading other topics instead of making more you will know the answers to you question i was like you agers ago i know what its like when you first join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 some of your topic are good but pointless because some one has already asked these questions. if you took your time reading other topics instead of making more you will know the answers to you question i was like you agers ago i know what its like when you first join.I'm guessing you didn't mean to quote me, but if you did.... i havn't posted a topic in a while and i've been a member for ages (was only in new members for a week ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I'm guessing you didn't mean to quote me, but if you did.... i havn't posted a topic in a while and i've been a member for ages (was only in new members for a week )I was in new members for 2 hours. Validated in one post Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amanda Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I was in new members for 2 hours. Validated in one post Danny.I was in new members for ... oh wait, nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I was in new members for 2 hours. Validated in one post Danny.They must have known its because your "special needs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 They must have known its because your "special needs" Hahaha. Love you Kris. Your the special one Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 creppy crawler defo, cheap and grippy ihave only tried echo and creppy crawler tyres and the creppy crawlers out pefromed the echos by far in grip but in outstanding the longest the echo won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I was in new members for ... oh wait, nevermind.Lmaosimple things do make me laugh!Benx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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