wunderboy Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) I got my 221ti in March and, as a beginner, I have not been terribly hard on it. I may have only dropped it a few times, and never from any significant height. However, several days ago I went for a mellow ride and was just hopping on the flat sidewalk. I squatted down just to get a boost (not to clear a gap, mind you, but just to land back on the sidewalk) and just then, at the moment I was loaded, SNAP!!! my fork shattered ... the part inside my head tube. I came crashing to the ground along with tears, brake fluid, and shattered metal... my handlebars still in hand. There was no reason for this it seems, but now I am broken. I am just terrified that something like that is going to happen at a less opportune moment. I mean, I had prime equipment and there was no hard landing, just hopping. If I would have been on a wall, it could have spelled disaster. How do I mentally overcome the doubt in my weaponry after such a menial battle is lost? I need to hear from people who have gotten hurt due to bike malfunction but kept going anyway. Did you have the same doubts? Edited December 29, 2007 by wunderboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Well trials is pretty hard on parts so basically you must either turn into Felix Mucke or just accept it ( probably easier just to accept that its part of trials). To tell you the truth I sort of avoid front wheel moves now as I managed to snap my forks gapping to front wheel. Doesn't help confidence that my steerer on forks at the moment is about 10-20mm shorter than the height of the stem on at the lowest it can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattB Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Mine did exactly as you said was preloading for a sidehop and snap. Might have the video somewhere.But I just got a new pair and carried on riding and you forget about it.Or get a stronger heavier pair.Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderboy Posted December 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Being that I am a broke student, I can not afford any new parts now, but my girlfriend has a python and hasn't ridden in months... so I just took her bike, did a rim grind and put my monty bars on... so it is pretty much new and the gear ratio is quite different. Why am I whining? I am such a frikin' sissy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I had prime equipmentThat's debatable Monty parts aren't really known for their durability. Some stuff is good though. Anyway, that sort of thing happens all the time in trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Being that I am a broke student, I can not afford any new parts now, but my girlfriend has a python and hasn't ridden in months... so I just took her bike, did a rim grind and put my monty bars on... so it is pretty much new and the gear ratio is quite different. Why am I whining? I am such a frikin' sissy.Your girlfriend has a Python!!!!!!!!! Woah dude! Wish I could get any girlfriend I've ever had to ride! That would be killer! Good luck to you with the fork! And the girl! Might I suggest you get the new V!Z curved fork from Unique Trials in Florida. Unique Trials can hook you up with some cool stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Your girlfriend has a Python!!!!!!!!! Woah dude! Wish I could get any girlfriend I've ever had to ride! That would be killer!In what way would that be a good thing?! My girlfriend rides XC with me sometimes and isn't always fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Fuk me you need to chill out lol , its like you have written a peice out of a overly dramatic book. People snap forks all the time i recommend getting someecho forks , will be alot stronger than your montys My monty forks were the worst of my fork snapping experiences , didnt creek or anything just snapped and wacked me face on ground lol. Edited December 29, 2007 by Deonn h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderboy Posted December 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) Monty parts aren't really known for their durability. Some stuff is good though. Anyway, that sort of thing happens all the time in trialsI am really glad you said that, as it gives me hope in my new equipment!Your girlfriend has a Python!!!!!!!!!HAD a Python It's not that the snapped forks scarred me... it was the fact that they snapped when I had done nothing to them... It's not like I can even gap more than 4 feet to front wheel. Edited December 29, 2007 by wunderboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Iam sorry to steal your topic but my ti is cracked too still riding it though and apparently i can get a new one ? how ?Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 (edited) I got my 221ti in March and, as a beginner, I have not been terribly hard on it. I may have only dropped it a few times, and never from any significant height. However, several days ago I went for a mellow ride and was just hopping on the flat sidewalk. I squatted down just to get a boost (not to clear a gap, mind you, but just to land back on the sidewalk) and just then, at the moment I was loaded, SNAP!!! my fork shattered ... the part inside my head tube. I came crashing to the ground along with tears, brake fluid, and shattered metal... my handlebars still in hand. There was no reason for this it seems, but now I am broken. I am just terrified that something like that is going to happen at a less opportune moment. I mean, I had prime equipment and there was no hard landing, just hopping. If I would have been on a wall, it could have spelled disaster. How do I mentally overcome the doubt in my weaponry after such a menial battle is lost? I need to hear from people who have gotten hurt due to bike malfunction but kept going anyway. Did you have the same doubts?I'm pretty sure 90% of the people on here have had something fail on them at a very inopportune time. It might knock your confidence slightly the next time you try but you soon forget. The amount of times i've gone to gap/drop gap and had my chain snap are ridiculous... yet i'll still stamp down on the pedals as hard as i can once i've fitted a new one. Control your fear, don't let it control you. Edited December 29, 2007 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 They could've cracked from other riding... Bike's don't go all new again before each ride.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderboy Posted December 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Iam sorry to steal your topic but my ti is cracked too still riding it though and apparently i can get a new one ? how ?Thanks !Did you crack your frame or forks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrAsHeR Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 well its not very nice riding with a crack around the chainstay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 What's happened is pretty much certainly a fatigue failure. A crack begins in the surface of the part and grows by a tiny amount each time the part is stressed - aluminium is a focker for this BTW - steel will tend to creak a lot more or you'll see rust from a crack easily. Look at the cracked surface in the fork - it will have a dark area (The initial crack over part of the break) and a lighter coloured dull area (Ductile overload failure in the part once there isn't enough cross section to support the load). It is because the crack is growing slowly that you get failures doing things which never broke the bike before. It's also the reason second hand trials bikes tend to change hands for so little money...Nothing much you can do about fatigue failures - polished parts last better against fatigue (No scratches to act as stress risers from which fatigue cracks can begin), shot peened are even more durable as the shot peening process puts compressive stress in the surface (Fatigue cracks can only initiate where there is tensile stress). Anodised parts are worse for fatigue resistance than ordinary aluminium because the columnar structure of the anodising can create higher stress zones on the surface. Not a big issue with parts designed for trials though.Fatigue is the reason why I'd be slow to trust handlebars or stems past 2 years (More like 1 if I've been riding a lot - snapped some shitec bars in 6 months), trials frames/forks/cranks past 3 years and chains past 1 year. I always try to buy stuff that is both designed for trials and designed for durability, not competition lightweight. Wheels can last a long time and don't fail in very dangerous ways, so they can be used for years. However it's only in the last couple of years I've had the kind of money that allows me to buy exactly what I want rather than being in the all too common situation where you only have cash to upgrade one part, so you have to guess what's going to fail first... Since then failures are few and far between thank fook ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I've had a set of megamo forks snap on me at speed while trying to hop a curb and miss a passing car. Cracked a rib landing on the stem, smashed my face against the floor and skinned my knuckles as I still had gold of the bars Really isn't a pleasant feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidehop Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Grow some balls?, Just tackle on matey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Definitely not the first Monty forks I've heard of doing this, especially if they happened to be the SSS style ones.Either way, you get over it really. If you think of all the hundreds of times you'll have pedalled that bike and ridden it in general, it was just one bit of bad luck really. Just get some better forks and you'll be fine (Until the next time ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Fox Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 yea matey battle on , the longer you leave missing out certain moves the harder it will be to eventually try them again. Get out on that python and show it whos boss ''Control your fear, don't let it control you'' says it all. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderboy Posted December 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Thanks, everyone. You guys rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An_toin3 Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 once crashed on my face doing a gap to front ! did it straight after, crashed again but this time went over the bar ! did it again ! nailed it ! reason why he did it just after I felt was to beat my fear of doing it again !You'll get over it eventually ! just do it again and with time it will feel natural ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 (edited) ive snaped 2 sets of koxx forks.....both gaps around 8 foot hurt shed loads..........and a coupple of months back.......gap to front wheel when my monty ti stem snapped clean in halfthis tells you two things1 .if your poor or have good mommys and daddys stay away from koxx and monty2.Go dengdave Edited December 31, 2007 by mrkoxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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