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[boon racoon]

dunno what thought process was going on here. in shorts as well! :|

[Brian Bleech]

yeah dude, i saw this the other day. Pretty mental! Pulled it second go too

[Fixed Pants™]

He was alive after an 'attempt'?!

Dear lord.

[Tony Harrison]

Double-u Tee Eff!!!

Of course, it's the 20th today. Well reminded, I'll have to brave the queues in WHSmith...

[Mark W]

That is an obscene, ridiculous whip, haha.

First person to spot the ad I shot the for photo wins

[eskimo]

I don't think i would even bother riding down that set. But riding down sets isn't something i would do for fun anyway. That is pure sillyness. Love to see a vid of it.

[JD™]

i wont be impressed unless there was a grind as the landing...........

[Muel]

If I was the editor of a bike magazine, I would make a new rule that the only pictures of people on bikes shown had to involve the rider wearing a helmet, the helmet needs more promotion people!

One of my Mum's mates died because he wasn't wearing a helmet, one of my Dad's mates spent 6 months in hospital.

IT HAPPENS PEOPLE!!!!

[jandamna]

If I was the editor of a bike magazine, I would make a new rule that the only pictures of people on bikes shown had to involve the rider wearing a helmet, the helmet needs more promotion people!

One of my Mum's mates died because he wasn't wearing a helmet, one of my Dad's mates spent 6 months in hospital.

IT HAPPENS PEOPLE!!!!

Carm down, he's only tailwhipping a 19set with shorts and a helmet on

[MadManMike]

Yeah, I mean most of NMC has gapped twice as far as that, with only one crank arm on...

[eskimo]

Yeah, I mean most of NMC has gapped twice as far as that, with only one crank arm on...

that was a good one.

Your, being serious though, aren't you

[*Tom*]

Yeah, I mean most of NMC has gapped twice as far as that, with only one crank arm on...

LMAO

[psycholist]

Looking at that picture do you honestly think a helmet will save him if things go wrong... In fact there's surprisingly little evidence a helmet guarantees any reduction in likelihood of death though it does reduce your chances of getting cut when you land on it. It's come in useful a couple of times on the trials bike (I've avoided cuts and bruises), but it's definitely not saved my life...

Strangely it's been shown (By UK based researchers) that motorists leave less room while overtaking cyclists who wear helmets (And way more if they think the cyclist is female) as well as that mandatory helmet wearing reduces the number of people who cycle. How about letting people make their own choices, otherwise we'll be forced to strap on full armour every time we hop on a bike because (Using the same logic as proponents of helmet wearing use) you can't deny that a full set of armour will almost certainly reduce your chance of injury in almost every crash.

[downhill_rob2@hotmail.com]

What would you rather have?

A, your head hitting a path at 30mph and caving your skull in, resulting in either death or brain damage

B, Your head being protected by 2" think peice of polystyrene, which in affect, when you hit your head, this protection stops your skull being caved in, stopping death by a HUGH ammount, but could also turn out with a little bit of brain damage, but atleast you can still eat food using a fork?

shit comparisons, but you get what i mean?

[Krisboats]

Looking at that picture do you honestly think a helmet will save him if things go wrong... In fact there's surprisingly little evidence a helmet guarantees any reduction in likelihood of death though it does reduce your chances of getting cut when you land on it. It's come in useful a couple of times on the trials bike (I've avoided cuts and bruises), but it's definitely not saved my life...

Strangely it's been shown (By UK based researchers) that motorists leave less room while overtaking cyclists who wear helmets (And way more if they think the cyclist is female) as well as that mandatory helmet wearing reduces the number of people who cycle. How about letting people make their own choices, otherwise we'll be forced to strap on full armour every time we hop on a bike because (Using the same logic as proponents of helmet wearing use) you can't deny that a full set of armour will almost certainly reduce your chance of injury in almost every crash.

So body armour reduces chances of injury but a helmet won't? I've landed on the corner of a wall with sufficient force to completely split a helmet before. I'm confident that without the helmet i wouldn't be here now, and if by some miracle i was, i wouldn't still be riding. Helmets DO reduce the risk... FACT.

Comparing it to drivers perception on roads is pretty weird too, the bmx'er is intending to put himself in a high-probability, life threatening situation, the motorcyclist isn't in quite such a situation... i mean motorcyclists don't generally go round the corner knowing full well that theres a higher chance of them getting hurt than not... then complicating it further by spinning the bike underneath them?

All safety promotion issues aside, fair play to him for making it... shame about no lid though.

Edited December 20, 2007 by Krisboats

[Bionic Balls]

so err....what is he doing?

tailwhip to the bottom? or tailwhip to grind? summat else?

magical

[Mark W]

In fairness, knowing how Randy Taylor is at doing whips, I can't really see what could happen to make him hit his head hard enough, or in such a way that a helmet would actually be useful. From V-Club, you can see that he's so consistent with them that the only thing he seems to do is slip the pedals, which generally just makes you slide along, or just dab your foot down. I haven't ever seen anyone go down from whipping a stair-set (especially not that big - this isn't trials, you don't try stuff like that unless you know you're going to be able to do it - or at least have a really, really high chance of doing it) and hit their heads.

The reason I always wore mine riding trials was usually 'cos I was shit-scared something would snap, like my chain, bars, freewheel, etc., whereas with BMX you just don't really ever break stuff like that. Stuff almost always bends before it breaks, or shows some sign of breaking, and with a relatively new setup like his I can't think of a single component he's running that I wouldn't trust fully.

The speed he's going at means that in the hugely unlikely event (and as it turned out nothing did...) of something breaking, he'd slide instead of the usual trials thing of just getting flipped forward, which makes your top half of your body/head super vulnerable. It's just how the physics of it would work.

But either way, his choice I guess.

so err....what is he doing?

tailwhip to the bottom? or tailwhip to grind? summat else?

magical

Whip to flat, I think. He's done a couple of 12s and 14s before, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

[eskimo]

Unless something on his front end exploded then a helmet would help is head but not his face

But yeah your right.

[011001000110010101110010]

That photo must be from his first attempt, otherwise all the blood from the first crash will spoil the photo

Nuts!

[Krisboats]

In fairness, knowing how Randy Taylor is at doing whips, I can't really see what could happen to make him hit his head hard enough, or in such a way that a helmet would actually be useful. From V-Club, you can see that he's so consistent with them that the only thing he seems to do is slip the pedals, which generally just makes you slide along, or just dab your foot down. I haven't ever seen anyone go down from whipping a stair-set (especially not that big - this isn't trials, you don't try stuff like that unless you know you're going to be able to do it - or at least have a really, really high chance of doing it) and hit their heads.

The reason I always wore mine riding trials was usually 'cos I was shit-scared something would snap, like my chain, bars, freewheel, etc., whereas with BMX you just don't really ever break stuff like that. Stuff almost always bends before it breaks, or shows some sign of breaking, and with a relatively new setup like his I can't think of a single component he's running that I wouldn't trust fully.

The speed he's going at means that in the hugely unlikely event (and as it turned out nothing did...) of something breaking, he'd slide instead of the usual trials thing of just getting flipped forward, which makes your top half of your body/head super vulnerable. It's just how the physics of it would work.

But either way, his choice I guess.

Whip to flat, I think. He's done a couple of 12s and 14s before, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

I dunno. I see what your saying, but i still can't help but feel that if its on the front cover of a magazine, he should be wearing a helmet. Fair enough, theres probably a lot of young impressionable kids who are quite sensible that see it the way you've just mentioned, that he wouldn't do it if he couldn't. But i'm sure theres also a lot of people who don't put two and two together and would go out and try tailwhipping off something huge just because they saw it on a magazine. Theres also the issue of people seeing him doing something that big without a helmet and thinking they won't need it for something smaller, but possibly far more dangerous, especially if they don't have the ability to pull it off.

The picture itself also doesn't show whether theres any other obstacles that could cause serious injury should he fall off and just slide/tumble at speed straight into them.

[Dr. Nick Riviera]

The picture itself also doesn't show whether theres any other obstacles that could cause serious injury should he fall off and just slide/tumble at speed straight into them.

some people are no fun, kids are too busy taking crack and stabbing people to care about bmx

[Mark W]

Unless something on his front end exploded then a helmet would help is head but not his face

From the setup he runs though, I wouldn't have thought anything would've broken. He's usually got pretty fresh setups (Seeing as Demo do rims 'n' hubs he's probably being flowed a decent amount of Zeros and Mary-Kates), and his bar, stem and fork setup is solid.

I dunno. I see what your saying, but i still can't help but feel that if its on the front cover of a magazine, he should be wearing a helmet. Fair enough, theres probably a lot of young impressionable kids who are quite sensible that see it the way you've just mentioned, that he wouldn't do it if he couldn't. But i'm sure theres also a lot of people who don't put two and two together and would go out and try tailwhipping off something huge just because they saw it on a magazine. Theres also the issue of people seeing him doing something that big without a helmet and thinking they won't need it for something smaller, but possibly far more dangerous, especially if they don't have the ability to pull it off.

The picture itself also doesn't show whether theres any other obstacles that could cause serious injury should he fall off and just slide/tumble at speed straight into them.

I honestly don't think that there's anyone out there, anywhere, who would go and try doing a hop whip down an 18-set from seeing that photo, unless they are people who are currently whipping large sets of steps. As soon as you get past around 10 steps, it starts getting shit scary doing anything down them, so to try and do a trick which you have no idea how to do, down a massive set of steps, is pretty unlikely. That's sort of what I was getting at with the trials thing - you see someone doing a big up, and you think "I'll give it a go, I can up _ft", and if you don't make it it's not the end of the world, you just step off. With that, hop-whips are f**king hard, and doing it down an 18-set isn't something you'd do unless you were very confident.

Similarly, what would be the point in doing a "Helmets only" rule on the cover if every other photo (well, the majority) are going to feature helmet-less people? I know it's there for a passive audience to see (the cover, I mean), but again, I doubt their thoughts would go much past "Wow". Not to mention from my experience, being someone actively seeking Ride magazines in shops, it's a total b*****d to find and see the cover because it's usually stuck behind the 15,000 copies of MBUK and Singletrack that W.H.Smiths and Borders buy in that never sell

When I said you'd "Slide" out of it, I didn't mean any distance, I jsut meant that your initial fall wouldn't be a direct, straight-down thing, and that you'd retain a little forward momentum. I doubt you'd get particularly far out of it, but it'd be enough to lessen the severity of the initial impact. Also, if it's a massive line like that, I doubt you'd go for it if there were a bunch of poles or something in the way, simply because it would be sketchy.

The fact he actually went down on the first attempt and got up to do it again would kinda reinforce that idea too, but also reinforces the idea of how ridiculously good Randy Taylor is, even if you haven't seen his V-Club "Overexposed" part (Up on GoogleVideo, well worth a watch ).

[Tom_C]

Exactly what I would have said Mark, sturdy wrists and ankles for sure though! Oh and had my first chain snap today pedalling towards a flatbank-sorry knee!

Tom

[Mark W]

I'm pro at chain snapping now, haha. 4th chain snap, 4th time going across a lane of traffic, 2nd time I've not even slipped the pedal, flipped over the bars or anything. Even got a "f**ks sake..." out.

[John Shrewsbury]

Yeh bort that shit today. great read