Apu Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 So I had this 12 inch kids bike and decided to use it for bike trials. Once used i cut it up and threw it in the scrap heap due to it's condition. Just recently I had this brainwave on restarting my kids bike riding days on a 16 inch, all tricked out to look the business. Here's it's specs once fully finished.Custom steel frame with lengthened front and shortened rear end plus very low top tube height.Magura HS11 rim brake out back.Disc brake up front. (unsure of make yet)Aluminium rims. (stronger than steel rims, Less likely to buckle)Head stem of at lest 100mm reach.No seat or post.Large 2.25" tire out back. (standard on a kids bike)Smaller 1.75" front tire (no need for anything bigger)1 1/8th" head stem. (either on an 1 1/8th" steerer and head set or a quill stem adapter)Chosen front disc hub (out of my mountain bike, used)Generic rear hub (freewheel, not coaster brake)Please don't say "I would be better off on a mod", I have been told this already elsewhere and would rather start trials the cheaper way. I'm not tall so riding small bikes is easy and small bikes are easier to throw around.Please tell me what your opinions are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Hundley Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) lmao is all i can think of to reply to that.. Edited December 19, 2007 by Grant Hundley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 You know second hand you pick something up dirt cheap?By all means go ahead with your plans but you'd get something MUCH better for not much cash... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny.p Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Please put a pic of this bike up it sounds awesome. Dont listen to everyone else im sure the first person to come out on a 20" trials bike got some stick aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Don't do it Hedrixmaster......oh, wait a minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandamna Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) Please put a pic of this bike up it sounds awesome. Dont listen to everyone else im sure the first person to come out on a 20" trials bike got some stick aswell.Sorry, new members opinions don't count, lol And why not just pick up a very cheap mod from ebay? You'll get one for about £100-150 easily. Edited December 19, 2007 by jandamna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Sounds like a good plan mate, let us know how you get on with it, get us some pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 LMAO, I know you said your short, but come on. Your not 3'2" are you?It would be cool to have a piss about on though, can't wait for pics, do a vid if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny.p Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) Sorry, new members opinions don't count, (Thats a joke)And why not just pick up a very cheap mod from ebay? You'll get one for about £100-150 easily.New members opinions dont count i think 16 year olds opinions dont count (thats a joke by the way) . Edited December 19, 2007 by vinny.p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandamna Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) New members opinions dont count i think 16 year olds opinions dont count (thats a joke by the way) .Your quite cool.Altho, with replys like that, Good luck getting validated. Edited December 19, 2007 by jandamna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd B Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 sounds like a laugh bet it will be realy flicky and easy to trow around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) why do it to your self? like every one has clearly stated above get a trials bike off ebay eaily get one for £100-150 maybe cheaper.and this trials bike will be alot better then some kids bike which is a wana be trials bike.yer sure it will be a laugh like to use but i wouldnt even be able to look you in the eye with out laughig if i saw someone going down the street with a bike like that. do what you want though your decsion, and as people have said as well bring out a video and can you put up some pics of this bike? Edited December 19, 2007 by onza-t-pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apu Posted December 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I'm about 5'8" at a guess. maybe more. and to those saying to buy a mod...!@#$ off. this is a way in which I can learn basic skills at the cost of about ten dollars (NZD). pictures of the frame will come within a month or so.oops also forgot to mention the cut and tapped truvativ firex cranks I'm going to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klewsh Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 hahahaha where in nz are you from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apu Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) hahahaha where in nz are you from?Cashmere, Christchurch. Should be getting a frame within the next week or so. (If my funds allow me) I'll be cutting out the bottom bracket shell and MIG welding in a European one to fit the modified cranks. The top tube and seat stays will get drop down lower for more clearance and the frame will be gusseted at the head tube, dropouts and possibly the seat post tube/bottom bracket area. Head tube will be steepened so I can run some slightly longer forks and still have good control of the bike. Still deciding whether an 1 1/8th" headset, steerer tube and stem is really worth all the extra cutting and welding. (My MIG is only a small one.) All they used on earlier trials bikes was 1" and I haven't broken one yet on any of my fool around bikes. Should be getting Magura second hand off "www.trademe.co.nz" (NZ eBay pretty much.) will have pictures up in a few months as funds are limited for me right now. maybe a bare frame will appear in a few weeks hopefully. Edited December 20, 2007 by Apu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor the basher. Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Ha so you are telling my you are going to get all them parts for under a tenner (dollors) um .......................................................... nope. There have been people on forum willing to give away onza tee-vees for the postage cost ......... idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apu Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Not exactly under ten dollars.Ten dollars will get me the bike to hack up.Another thirty or so should cover rims and the Magura I'm bidding on at the moment for a few dollars.Kids bikes are very cheap including parts.Aluminium rims with hubs (rear 16") go for 30 dollars here in NZ two without hubs will be cheaper and if I can't get them then I might try 12" rims. Saw some on a pram just recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Saw some on a pram just recently.Yeah, Pram rims will last a long time when being trialled.I'm sorry, but people are offering advice and you were quite rude, so I'm rude back: Your plan is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hI-OOPS-CAPS Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Yeah, Pram rims will last a long time when being trialled.I'm sorry, but people are offering advice and you were quite rude, so I'm rude back: Your plan is ridiculous.looks like everyones been abit rude to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 This is going to be just about the funniest bike I have ever seen, please finish it and make a video.I'm gonna get my trek out tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apu Posted December 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Sorry about being rude everyone. I just can't stand the fact that so far a good 14 people have told me (not just here but elsewhere) to go and spend large amounts of money on a real trials bike. I am sticking to a budget due to the fact that all the parts I am using are in my garage except for the frame and rims. Buying a mod would be the preferred decision but as there is a budget I am keeping to building the 16". (smaller bikes are easier to throw around anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandamna Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 And for those 70$ you could go onto ebay, or look around here for a very cheap trials bike. lol. Instead of spending $70 on a childs frame with pram wheels on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apu Posted December 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 (edited) shipping bikes from eBay would cost about 70 dollars. and 3 months waiting. plus the cost of the bike.and that defeats the purpose. A child cannot ride a 20" comfortably. once finished I will be using it but then selling it off eventually to pay for a mod...And just so you know those 12 1/2" aluminium pram wheels are just the same as bike wheels but a lot stronger. Finding aluminium kids bike wheels is very hard. Steel rims just fold in half after the first bunny hop.And please, Don't keep saying get a mod off eBay. Shipping bikes to New Zealand is bloody expensive. Edited December 22, 2007 by Apu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Hundley Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 once finished I will be using it but then selling it off eventually to pay for a mod...lmaothis thread should be moved to BOTIanyway, you asked for oppinions, you got them. dont be such a jebend, save your 70 dollars and save up, you will build this bike realise its a heavy pile of metal that rides like a shopping trolley and it WILL not sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam-Griffin Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 To be fair, From what you have said, you don't have a clue what you're talking about, pram wheels stronger than Trials specific wheel? You ARE joking are'nt you !? And a "16 wheel will absolutly NOT stand up to trial's abuse, not even if you ride like a pixie!This also worried me "Ten dollars will get me the bike to hack up." Hack up !?!?!??!?! bike's are'nt for "hacking up"! Also, $10 will get you some thing like this;That's if you're lucky!Please for god sake Just save and buy a bikie that will last longer than a day, if you wait until you're validated, im sure someone will GIVE you an old frame just to stop this monstrocioty from being born, i cant sleep at night knowing that it's going to be about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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