Christianity

[Simpson]

After going to a religious school for the last 4ish months its really got me thinking about religion, i mean i've always belived that there was a superior being. I think i've just realised that having faith makes you stronger and not weaker and can only make you a better well rounded person, I'm not perticually interesting in going to church regually or anything. I'm just really interested in the concept of it, at school they've taught me that although the bible might not be a book of 100% pure fact, but i do belive that the bible is a great guide line for the way of how to live your life.....

I dunno really what im asking, but just anyone else in here whos religous and whats your veiws on it?

[moose-iow]

i belive there has got to be more to life than just life and death. i just dont know what i offten wonder about stuff like this, i just dont know what to belive because of all the different religions. i think it will be something i start looking in to more when i get some spare time. Or when i am a bit more mature.

[tank_rider]

I'm currently in the process of finding christianity. The fundamental thing is having a personal relationship with Jesus. Lots of people go through their life being a christian but have never really had a personal relationship, they attend church and follow the bible but lack a certain spark that comes about by having that relationship. I myself don't have a relationship with Jesus yet, but i have some pretty good evidence of how much of a force it can be in your life so is something i am trying to find.

I went to my first church service in 10 years in sunday and what a difference there is, the power and energy that is evident in a modern service really is somethig to behold. If you're not sure whether it's for you or not there's a good course that i myself will be doing that is run all over the country which is for all whether you want to just learn more about christianity or whether you're already a christian and have some questions. Have a look at their site and see when there's one near you running http://uk.alpha.org/

I've always lived my life by christian values as they've been instilled in me by my parents who both had a christian upbringing, but don't follow it now.

[Dr. Nick Riviera]

that's a good attitude to have, if that's what you choose to believe which is a faith in itself then that's smashing.

faith shouldn't be about bracketing yourself, you could say you agree with Christian ideals to give people an idea, but you don't have to label yourself.

religion is a nice idea. it's just poorly executed by some who spoil it for everyone else, i'm not going to use the E word, but you all know what i mean.

and at the end of the day, if you can make your life more positive by taking ideas from a book/books, then go for it.

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can i just ask if there is anyone religious on here who's not Christian, catholic or jewish?

Edited December 12, 2007 by Dr. Nick Riviera

[moose-iow]

I'm currently in the process of finding christianity. The fundamental thing is having a personal relationship with Jesus. Lots of people go through their life being a christian but have never really had a personal relationship, they attend church and follow the bible but lack a certain spark that comes about by having that relationship. I myself don't have a relationship with Jesus yet, but i have some pretty good evidence of how much of a force it can be in your life so is something i am trying to find.

I went to my first church service in 10 years in sunday and what a difference there is, the power and energy that is evident in a modern service really is somethig to behold. If you're not sure whether it's for you or not there's a good course that i myself will be doing that is run all over the country which is for all whether you want to just learn more about christianity or whether you're already a christian and have some questions. Have a look at their site and see when there's one near you running http://uk.alpha.org/

I've always lived my life by christian values as they've been instilled in me by my parents who both had a christian upbringing, but don't follow it now.

think i might have a look in to this.

[Tony Harrison]

I was once a confirmed Christian, went to a Christian school, had communion - the full works! Then I thought about it and realised I didn't need to cling to a 'faith' for some kind of support. I realised I could carve my own path through life without guidance from a 2000 year old book. If that sounds cynical, then sorry, but what I mean is - I think I'm doing alright now on my own. The idea of God, and a 'Jesus' looking down on us all... just sounds and feels odd to a practical person like myself.

However, I can appreciate why some people find a kind of solace in religion. At the same time I see religion causing lots of troubles, and having a detrimental effect on lives, Islam being a good one for that. I think what it comes down to is choice. It has to be yours. My choices have always been my own.

I hope you find what you're looking for.

[MadManMike]

Ah, we haven't had a Religion topic to get closed in ages!

In all seriousness though, I do not believe at all. I went to a CoE school and just mimed the hymns, and am not interested at all to be honest.

To me, the Bible is no more real than Charlie & The Chocolate Factory (Charlie & The iMac-tory lol)- it's just a story / collection of stories.

Each to their own, but I personally don't take it seriously

[Si-man]

Not religious at all. I just think its funny that people pray asif it actually does anything.

All religion does it get people killed. People are only religious because they are forced into it by their parents.

Thats how i see it anyway. *awaits the moaning*

I used to be best mates with a vicors son, went to one of his cermons, didnt find it interesting one bit, told him that, he said thats your choice. dunno where im going with this, so lol

Edited December 12, 2007 by Si-man

[MadManMike]

All religion does it get people killed. People are only religious because they are forced into it by their parents.

There's the first step to this thread being closed...

Although I completely agree with you Si...

[N.Wood]

I was once a confirmed Christian, went to a Christian school, had communion - the full works! Then I thought about it and realised I didn't need to cling to a 'faith' for some kind of support. I realised I could carve my own path through life without guidance from a 2000 year old book. If that sounds cynical, then sorry, but what I mean is - I think I'm doing alright now on my own. The idea of God, and a 'Jesus' looking down on us all... just sounds and feels odd to a practical person like myself.

However, I can appreciate why some people find a kind of solace in religion. At the same time I see religion causing lots of troubles, and having a detrimental effect on lives, Islam being a good one for that. I think what it comes down to is choice. It has to be yours. My choices have always been my own.

I hope you find what you're looking for.

Similar story to me...

Went to a Church of England primary school, then to a Royal school where we had to go to our chapel every Wednesday, regardless of our beliefs.

But being a very scientific and, as you put it, practical, until someone goes 'look, this is evidence for what 'God' has done' then i have no reason to believe anything.

Not saying that there is 100% nothing to life other than what we see, but until someone shows me proof, i'll carry on living my life the way i am.

[Si-man]

Nah its not. Most people do get made to go to church, mosques etc when they are children as they have no freedom of speach and have to abide by what the parents tell them. if they actually had a choice then maybe it will open peoples eyes to it all.

People think that religion is the be all and end all, and nothing else in the world is right. Its like a blanket that people use to hide under.

Hope that makes sense like.

If you are 100% devoted catholic, sikh, jew etc, then fair do's. this is just a point of view from a non believer

[JT!]

Last time i went to church i sat there listening to some guy bitch about how come churches baptise people with a drop of water on their head, rather than being submerdged....

Blah blah f**king blah!

I do belive in some kind of god. But that's just becuase there's no plauseable answer to the whole 'big question'. Ergo, god.

Religion to be is a waste of time unless you get something out of it to make you a better person.

[JonMack]

But being a very scientific and, as you put it, practical, until someone goes 'look, this is evidence for what 'God' has done' then i have no reason to believe anything.

Not saying that there is 100% nothing to life other than what we see, but until someone shows me proof, i'll carry on living my life the way i am.

Pretty much exactly how I feel. I can't dismiss years and years of scientific proof and put it down to a 'God'. It just doesn't make sense to me.

[br3n]

After watching zeitgeist (sp) and already being a non believer I couldn't be any less interested in religion...

I agree to an extent that following the bible will lead you down a "better" path but religion can cause SOOO much trouble as well..

I think it resonable to be religious in older generations, when these "miracles" couldnt be explained but so much has happened since then coupled with the complete lack of an argument against scientific explanations from the bible :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EXqdJ4L7I

LOL

[MadManMike]

All the people out there that try and preach it to me:

Show me proof. Show me a modern day miracle.

Don't show me a book full of stories that are as believable as The Sun or OK! Magazine.

[JonMack]

All the people out there that try and preach it to me:

Show me proof. Show me a modern day miracle.

Don't show me a book full of stories that are as believable as The Sun or OK! Magazine.

+1

Ricky Gervais talks about it in his latest DVD, and saying that his RE teachers comebacks weren't thought out at all, so he just said stuff like "God moves in mysterious ways", he also said that every law of the land was in the bible somewhere.

[Wet Banana]

God doesn't exist.

Heaven doesn't exist.

Hell doesn't exit.

When your dead, your dead.

That's my religion.

[Ash-Kennard]

After watching zeitgeist (sp) and already being a non believer I couldn't be any less interested in religion...

I agree to an extent that following the bible will lead you down a "better" path but religion can cause SOOO much trouble as well..

I think it resonable to be religious in older generations, when these "miracles" couldnt be explained but so much has happened since then coupled with the complete lack of an argument against scientific explanations from the bible :/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EXqdJ4L7I

LOL

All the people out there that try and preach it to me:

Show me proof. Show me a modern day miracle.

Don't show me a book full of stories that are as believable as The Sun or OK! Magazine.

total agreement

[Fish-Finger-er]

see i dont not believe in god, i just dont believe in religion. either as an actual believe in a god that the religion has created, or in the positiveness of any one religion over any other. sure christianitys got its good points, but then so has hinduism and bhuddism (the only 3 relgions ive ever read/looked into(i did religious studies at school) sure most of the others, including islam have.

as for christianity itself, well theres a bloke i work with(who i hate, but well not go into that too deep here) whose wife is a vicar, and hes proper into christianity, which is fine, but he does try to shove it down my throat at any given oppurtunity, and also dismisses other religions a lot, hes bad mouthed jehovahs witnesses, jews, muslims, sikh's to me, and i dont even speak to him any more than i have too.

but religion isnt all good, apart from using religion as an excuse to brainwash muslims into suicide. theres cases of jehovahs witnesses dying due to blood transfusions being against their religion, and there plenty of cases of the church of england protecting paedophiles.

im way less than perfect in life, done plenty of things i shouldnt, but.... thats because of who i am, the choices i make etc.but the truth of the matter is, id probably still of done them things if i was a christian, i just wouldnt admit to it, i know of 2 girls who are supposedly devout catholics, no sex before marriage etc, but ive had first hand experience that they do partake in sex before marriage.

the bloke at work i previously mentioned is a strong believer and follower in christianity, yet hes one of the most crooked people ive met, well hes not, i know a few more people that are way more crooked than him, but he just wont admit that hes crooked, when weve all seen him steal stuff, fiddle things etc.

sure im probably wrong and eternally live in hell for whats happened, or ill come back as a millipede or something. but till then, meh.

[James Quigley]

I not a religious person at all. I believe we are born live our lives however we choose and then die.

However, if a religion such as christianity, can bring a mass of people together and make them happy and live clean lives then It's a wonderful concept.

It's just religions like Jahovas? that are all preachy and forceful that get on my tits.

I say believe what you want just dont try to impose your beliefs onto others, it wont turn out well

[moose-iow]

I not a religious person at all. I believe we are born live our lives however we choose and then die.

However, if a religion such as christianity, can bring a mass of people together and make them happy and live clean lives then It's a wonderful concept.

It's just religions like Jahovas? that are all preachy and forceful that get on my tits.

I say believe what you want just dont try to impose your beliefs onto others, it wont turn out well

that i agree with, jahovas really pee me off the way they come knocking on your door!

[Phil H]

I not a religious person at all. I believe we are born live our lives however we choose and then die.

However, if a religion such as christianity, can bring a mass of people together and make them happy and live clean lives then It's a wonderful concept.

It's just religions like Jahovas? that are all preachy and forceful that get on my tits.

I say believe what you want just dont try to impose your beliefs onto others, it wont turn out well

I agree with you. Although I'm not a christian, actually consider myself an atheist, I do support christian values on practical grounds. It is clear that if people don't kill, don't steal, don't commit adultery etc society is going to be a better place which works more smoothly.

As for some other religious values such as the Jehovas Witness mother who rejected being given blood to save herself on religious grounds and then died leaving her children motherless - what a load of CRAP. (IMO)

Therefore if religion improves peoples lives and makes a better world then I have no problem with it, just isn't personally for me.

Phil

[Si-man]

I agree with you. Although I'm not a christian, actually consider myself an atheist, I do support christian values on practical grounds. It is clear that if people don't kill, don't steal, don't commit adultery etc society is going to be a better place which works more smoothly.

As for some other religious values such as the Jehovas Witness mother who rejected being given blood to save herself on religious grounds and then died leaving her children motherless - what a load of CRAP. (IMO)

Therefore if religion improves peoples lives and makes a better world then I have no problem with it, just isn't personally for me.

Phil

Thats just common sense though, not really christian values. Jehovahs are the worst ones, come to your house, try and get in and preach about bollocks. The part about not recieving blood, that's clever isn't it. Lets die just because a book tells us not to recieve blood thats not our own. Its like saying "oh look, this book tells us never to speak" so you never do. tripe.

Im gonna shut up now before I end up getting enraged

[Ash-Kennard]

that i agree with, jahovas really pee me off the way they come knocking on your door!

my mate at college was telling me how they were knocking on doors and he shot at them with his air rifle lmao. but hes a proper sicko

[moose-iow]

my mate at college was telling me how they were knocking on doors and he shot at them with his air rifle lmao. but hes a proper sicko

thats the kinda thing i think of doing but i never do it