Danny Swindlehurst Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Hey guys and gals,Right...High or low stem hight on a mod...What do you run and what are the advantages off a low stem ?...and what are the disadvantages off a low stem ?...also for high stem hight to pleaseIts getting on me nerves cause it seems like im the only street rider who has a really really high stem hight ...dunno if its personal prefrence or not butwill it help me goin to lower stem or will it make it worse ?thanks for your time for helping and looking...danny s xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Hey guys and gals,Right...High or low stem hight on a mod...What do you run and what are the advantages off a low stem ?...and what are the disadvantages off a low stem ?...also for high stem hight to pleaseIts getting on me nerves cause it seems like im the only street rider who has a really really high stem hight ...dunno if its personal prefrence or not butwill it help me goin to lower stem or will it make it worse ?thanks for your time for helping and looking...danny s xxi prefer higher stems all together danny ur not alone haha.Matx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownbike Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hey guys and gals,Right...High or low stem hight on a mod...What do you run and what are the advantages off a low stem ?...and what are the disadvantages off a low stem ?...also for high stem hight to pleaseIts getting on me nerves cause it seems like im the only street rider who has a really really high stem hight ...dunno if its personal prefrence or not butwill it help me goin to lower stem or will it make it worse ?thanks for your time for helping and looking...danny s xxIt's OK mate i have the answer........I snapped my monty stem a while ago, it wasn't one of the newer ones, it was an old one that looked like the current Onza ones - really high. Sitting on the back wheel, the bike felt great, it didn't hurt my back riding anywhere as you are more upright. Overall i was quite happy with it. Then it broke.... I used my Echo Hi Fi stem - really low like the Zoo ones, anyway, my sidehops increased in height by around half an inch immediately, you don't have to pre load as much, switches (pigeons..???) are much easier as you don't hit you balls on the stem. Gaps to front, however didn't really improve much, gaps felt as if i could put in more effort, but didn't actually improve.The main point i will highlight is that a low stem makes the bike feel a hell of a lot shorter!I'd say try a low one, i don't think i'd go back now.Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Nahh, just get a stock....XDJarrodm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 i prefer a slightly higher stem than usual on a mod, simply because it makes bunnyhopping so fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I run a T-master, and i love it. I had a Try-All, but it felt like wank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Really depends what frame your using, I haven't had at all much experience with mod, but when I had my ko mod it was set up with a viz high rise and it rode perfect.But it if the stem affects mod the in the same way asit does stock... higher stems tap better, lower stems gap better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I have a quite high front, Try-All stem, but, I have high rise Monty 221PR bars, rides spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 i had a viz high rize with 25mm of stackers.....the higher the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I have a quite high front, Try-All stem, but, I have high rise Monty 221PR bars, rides spot on.Try-all stems ain't that high rise. Longer stem gaps better, shorter stem sides/ bunnyhops/ hooks better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 When I had my Monty I ran a Onza stem, It was muhc nicer than the Echo one I had on my ZooThey monty has different geo too. Wish I never swapped! =[ BRING BACK MY MONTY!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 why not buy a monty 15 quid stem and find out for yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NileBrown™ Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Surely, the amount of spacers you run on your steerer fork can play a part in the geometry, as I ran an uncut steerer with a few spacers than the usual and gave me a hight front end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 high set up for the win, makes bunnyhops nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.McMillan Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Nahh, just get a stock....XDJarrodmclass reply and totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balman Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 On my ko (long) i rode a echo team stem and it felt mint but now on my zhi (short) it has lost the feeling, im going to a monty ti stem soon as there a little lower i think the longer the bike the longer the stem maybe? i could be talking outta my arse its just what i have found.cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Swindlehurst Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 It's OK mate i have the answer........I snapped my monty stem a while ago, it wasn't one of the newer ones, it was an old one that looked like the current Onza ones - really high. Sitting on the back wheel, the bike felt great, it didn't hurt my back riding anywhere as you are more upright. Overall i was quite happy with it. Then it broke.... I used my Echo Hi Fi stem - really low like the Zoo ones, anyway, my sidehops increased in height by around half an inch immediately, you don't have to pre load as much, switches (pigeons..???) are much easier as you don't hit you balls on the stem. Gaps to front, however didn't really improve much, gaps felt as if i could put in more effort, but didn't actually improve.The main point i will highlight is that a low stem makes the bike feel a hell of a lot shorter!I'd say try a low one, i don't think i'd go back now.Neilcheers for your replys people they have helped supprisingly im gonan try a high stem for a week/month then try a low stem for a week/month and seee what i like best !!thanks alot agen !!danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 By the sounds of things. My Zoo! stem is whats stopping me from improving. Echo Team stem gonna be ordered soon.Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 What about length of the stem, I notice some stems are 25 degree like the echo team, but some are 30 degree like the try-all. Although the echo is longer than the try-all. So I guess the echo will make the bike feel longer with a similar rise to the try-all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 By the sounds of things. My Zoo! stem is whats stopping me from improving. Echo Team stem gonna be ordered soon.Danny.Sound plan, seriously. The Team is a really nice blend between super high and retardedly low. Just makes a bike feel so much more responsive, nimble and basically fun to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Low rise stem gives you more pulling and tucking range of all the relevant trials techniques, high rise offers less range but more comfortable riding. if you really want to develop more powerful bike launching techniques, low is the way to go because you make your trials muscles work harder and more dynamically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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