walker Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Hello all, here's a model i made on solid edge, its some sort of stub axel, not sure what its off.Does anyone know the manufacturing methods that would be used to manufacture it?any help greatly appreciated,Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Milling, drilling, turning??that what you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 yeah, that sort of thing, but im no dumb ass.Would it be machined from a casting?other option is to have two parts welded togetherAndrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Could machine that from a bit of stock, lots of labour time, money though.Casting sounds like the best way. Im not sure what one of these parts actually looks like in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 bascally itsa simplified verion of what ur slave cylinder/hub bolts onto on car, they're everywhere!! i was just hoping somen could tell me eactly how they are made??Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 (edited) cast going for that one. then later machined to shape.Could possibly use spark eroding aswell, as you can get any shape you want with that method Edited November 28, 2007 by Si-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD404 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Forging, or casting for the main body, finished by milling and drilling. The shaft could be turned separately and friction welded to the body. Alternatively you could look at die casting or injection molding (you haven't really given an idea of its use so no comments about plastic being too weak) but they would be expensive due to the intricate molds required.Or (assuming plastic isn't appropriate) you could look to rapid manufacture techniques such as laser sintering (and dmls). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 so im guessing most automobiles will used cast items, as forged would cost a lot more. Obviously forged steel has a higher strength to weight ratio than cast iron, so the cast iron version would be bulkier?Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD404 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 so im guessing most automobiles will used cast items, as forged would cost a lot more. Obviously forged steel has a higher strength to weight ratio than cast iron, so the cast iron version would be bulkier?AndrewIf you used the same design for each material there wouldn't be much of a mass difference (same densities), but the steel one would be stronger. Therefore you could remove material to make it lighter. Cast iron is probably the most common material found for those parts due to cost (or lack there of). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 As a first step be sure to have the requirements of the design noted, the function is carries out when part of the car. Then an appropriate manufacturing process can be picked out to fulfill the requirements.Highly stressed part or not.Any surfaces that need to be accurately made for fitting other parts onto.Etc, building into a thorough Design Specification for the item, cost, performance... I'm sure you're already familar with Design Specs.In the photo, the example has been machined (the shiny bits) only where the accurate finish is required. As a mass production part, it must have worked out more cost efficient to factor in the high one off cost of the tooling for casting, with the necessary machining only on the important areas for threads and accurate mating of other items. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Thanks for your help. Just out of curiosity, what would be the outcome of casting a component out of steel, not pure iron?Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCircus Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 POWER DRILL AND GLUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Thanks for your help. Just out of curiosity, what would be the outcome of casting a component out of steel, not pure iron?AndrewI'd have a look on Wikipedia to uncover all the detail on how Steel and Iron compare for mechanical properties and relevant processes of manufacture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 don't forget the internal properties once cast. as for the specific process. there are many to choose from.as long as you justify your choice, the objective is to find out for yourself about processes.f it is just one, i would ignore cost.investment casting would possibly be ok for a one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 (edited) i cant see the pic but if its some sort of axel its probs just machined from a single billit or if theyre realy fancy maybe investment casting???? very expensive i suppose though..... im at college so the comps are crap and wont open the pic... lol ill wait till i get homeedit: ah i see someones already mentioned investment lol Edited November 29, 2007 by aim@me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 i guess you could machine the whole damn thing but as its been said, easier to cast and then finish offnot sure how you'd clamp it in a lathe to turn the end bit though unless you had some extra material to clamp it on, and then remove it afterwards meh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 i'm gonna go with od404 and say forged then finished...people do not cast steel very often...it's very expensive and not worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD404 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 not sure how you'd clamp it in a lathe to turn the end bit though unless you had some extra material to clamp it on, and then remove it afterwards meh..Lathe it from a bar, use a parting tool to cut the finished piece off, then friction weld to the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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