Earning Money While In The Usa

[Dai the Socket]

I'd much rather take 2 than 1 to be honest. 3's out of the question.

I can't be arsed to wait another 2 years.

Doesn't sound like you're serious about moving over then. I don't think you realise, you don't have any options to just 'move' and live the wonderful life.

I want to move over to America once I've finished my degree and I know I'm going to have to jump through hoops, possibly do further training after my business degree and wait a hell of a long time for a full visa.

If I 'cant be arsed' then I'm not going. It's as simple as that. America's one of the hardest countries to get into and stay in - what makes you think you're any different to anyone else? Doesn't seem like you've got much going for you, you just want to live in the US 'cos it's cheap living, good weather and some bird you met on the 'net is there.

You need to wake up if I'm honest, I'm sure a lot of people will agree with me but aren't saying it out of politeness.

Edited November 15, 2007 by Nick Carter

[basher]

ebay shop can make you alot of money, if you sell the right stuff and are super proffesional about how you are like sending things out striaght away, and good customer service. People go on ebay to get a bargain to get things cheaper than the shops, id proberly stay away from clothes as people can be unsatisfied about things or may not fit so want to send it back causeing hassle also people are usually bit tentative to buy clothes as they might be fake. Electrical things on ebay are very competitive on ebay i would say, like if you type nitendo ds in a thausand products will come up meaning unless you can sell things cheaper than others i dont think sales will be massive meaning you stuck with things. If you want to just sell your own stuff f**k the shop and just use a normal account. May be you could make money by shipping loads of deng and zhi parts over if you have the money to and selling them for profit.

Have to say it seems like you arnt to seious about this. If you are really serious about this and you want to spend the rest of your life with her/him then you would do the training and get a visa so you can live out there properly.

Edited November 15, 2007 by basher

[JT!]

Doesn't sound like you're serious about moving over then. I don't think you realise, you don't have any options to just 'move' and live the wonderful life.

I want to move over to America once I've finished my degree and I know I'm going to have to jump through hoops, possibly do further training after my business degree and wait a hell of a long time for a full visa.

If I 'cant be arsed' then I'm not going. It's as simple as that. America's one of the hardest countries to get into and stay in - what makes you think you're any different to anyone else? Doesn't seem like you've got much going for you, you just want to live in the US 'cos it's cheap living, good weather and some bird you met on the 'net is there.

You need to wake up if I'm honest, I'm sure a lot of people will agree with me but aren't saying it out of politeness.

What i mean is i'd rather marry than be away from her for another two years training for something that might not get me in anyway.

I want to live in america becuase i love my girlfriend. That's the only reason.

Edited November 15, 2007 by JT!

[Tomm]

Just out of interest, what is the law regarding her coming over here and working? Is it basically the same?

I'm just curious as to who has the toughest immigration laws mainly. But then again you're willing to make some pretty huge sacrifices to see her, is she willing to do the same back?

[Adam-Griffin]

Have read most of the thread but not ALL of it, can you not become a cab driver ? something like 90% of them are illlegal imigrants in the US ?

[Matt_Tupman]

Ebay is saturated with full time sellers now you'll only make enough to live off eBay if you have somethin new to offer.

[The Stig]

Hmmmmm i see the only way is becoming a gigilo OJ

[Brian Bleech]

Leedstrials i met her online and spent 2 weeks with her, then went back again for 4 weeks. Known her for a good 2 years now.

Ok, maybe I am old and jaded, but in the last two years you have seen for 6% of that time. Thats not much...

I think you really need to spend some time with her. It's christmas you could make a lot of money over the next few months. I think you should work your ass off. Go over spend some quality time with her and see what happens.

Also, If you go now and get cash in hand job, what happens at the end of the 3 months? You can't stay there unless you get married and thats a big big step up!

I hope it works for you though

[boon racoon]

Just out of interest, what is the law regarding her coming over here and working? Is it basically the same?

I'm just curious as to who has the toughest immigration laws mainly. But then again you're willing to make some pretty huge sacrifices to see her, is she willing to do the same back?

My friend was in the same situation as JT, but in reverse. She met an American guy on a gap year 3 and a half years ago. They have been together ever since, spent their gap year together. Then he had to go back to the States.

So for 2 years they only saw each other alternating who visited who during christmas, easter and summer holidays (she was at Uni.) but obviously stayed in contact every day. Then one time he got turned away when coming over to visit by UK immigration. I think they got their stories mixed up, but either way he didn't have as much of a reason to be here as he thought.

It from that point that they decided they needed to get married. Even so they hadn't seen a massive amount of each other.

He moved over at the start of this summer under a marriage visa. For the 3 months before they were officially married he could NOT work here (even labouring, not officially even gardening for someone - though you'd never get caught) otherwise he would have gotten kicked straight back to the US

They got married in August, and he's just got his first job in the UK last week. Once all the papers had gone through.

So it can work. But yeh, fancy getting married?!

Couldn't do any of that myself. They're both Christian which probably made it seem a lot more logical - I dunno.

I remember he said to me that it was all about the "next step" that motivated them to do it. Some couples move in together as a next step, but obviously they couldn't even move into the same country together. So the next step for them was marriage!

/story

Edited November 15, 2007 by the boon

[Fish-Finger-er]

jt, would you be travelling back and to between the states and here much(i.e once every couple of months) or like 1 every couple of years for a week or so?

the way i see it, with most of my stuff, its either cheaper than wat i payed for it, if id of bought it in the us, or its bought from the us and shipped across here, because it works out stupidly cheap to do it that way.

give you some examples of stuff and the difference in prices.

mates gf has currently gone over to the us of a, shes bringing him back 3 24-70L canon dslr lenses. shes paying £480 a lens over there, theyll sell on ebay over here for £650-700(Depending on if he waits till the end of rebate season or not), works out even bigger margins if your buying second hand stuff(hint hint, dont look at how mike singleton makes some cash)

i just ordered some clothing from the us, not as such designer stuff, more motocross casual stuff, fox, alpinestars etc, its all way under 50% of the cost of it over here. ($80 dollars for an £80 hoodie you cant actually get hold of in this country for love nor money, well you couldnt when i came to order the stuff)

i just ordered some motox dvd's from the us, they again cost me under half what they wer selling for on ebay in this country. not to mention nowhere in this country had nitro circus 5, the new romaniaks, or the 2007 erzberg dvds in.

now obviously you could pick what you want from that lot, but could really see something such as extreme sports and the like dvd's selling well. if you could sort something out, even just buyin individual dvds and selling them on ebay.co.uk, with pound symbols and everything, listed as selling from the uk. you can make £10 a dvd buying single dvds(as the value is under £18 you aint gunna get stung with vat/import tax/duty etc). dont have to be a mathmatician to work out you only need to sell 6 dvds a week to make that £60 you need(youll make about £11 a dvd, and itll cost you under £3 a dvd to post) till youve made some profit, theres no real risk involved, you dont even have to have the dvd your selling, providing you knows bills bikeshack or kates ktm dealers has new world disorder, or erzberg 2007 sittin on there shelf at $17 dollar, you can go sell it on ebay.co.uk for £20 with shipping or whatever, wait till youve been payed via paypal, go buy the dvd from the shop, and post it off. obviously once youve made a couple of hundred quid, and know what sells well, it may be worth either keeping a few of them dvds in stock, to save popping to the shop so often/ starting to find out where youd buy dvds in quantities of 25 or 50 in, and how much of a saving youd make on them.

motocross helmets are another big earner, justin wilson(top uk enduro rider) was talking to one of the blokes i work with the other week, and hed just been out to the us racing with david knight (probably the top extreme enduro rider in the world right now). hed bought a helmet over there, he payed $80 for it(£40 quid at the time) over here its a £280 helmet, which would obviously be a stupid good earner, but i dont know many people who buy helmets without trying them on, especially not £280 ones.

only speaking on what i know. theres probably plenty more(£75 mark up on an ipod hardly seems worth it for the hassle/duty risk) that you could look into if you did some research. (skateboard parts, designer hats, watches, possibly xc frames???) games( a lad one of my mates used to live with, used to buy all his ps3/xbox360 games off a lad who he went to college with, whod moved to canada, this lad sold games on ebay.co.uk too for £15ish a game profit, sometimes more on pre release stuff)

womens perfume. designer mens underwear. go do some research.

[JT!]

Just out of interest, what is the law regarding her coming over here and working? Is it basically the same?

I'm just curious as to who has the toughest immigration laws mainly. But then again you're willing to make some pretty huge sacrifices to see her, is she willing to do the same back?

Her comming over here isn't really an option at the moment, due to many reasons.

Have read most of the thread but not ALL of it, can you not become a cab driver ? something like 90% of them are illlegal imigrants in the US ?

I can't drive, lol.

Ok, maybe I am old and jaded, but in the last two years you have seen for 6% of that time. Thats not much...

I think you really need to spend some time with her. It's christmas you could make a lot of money over the next few months. I think you should work your ass off. Go over spend some quality time with her and see what happens.

Also, If you go now and get cash in hand job, what happens at the end of the 3 months? You can't stay there unless you get married and thats a big big step up!

I hope it works for you though

On a tourist visa i'd be able to spend 3 years + there. Not 3 months.

I'm not after peoples opinions on the situation that i'm in becuase no one here knows the full story. If you still want to discuss it look through my topics and dig up the first one i made about it.

All i'm after here is what the title says.

Edited November 16, 2007 by JT!

[JT!]

Any more ideas?

[Joe Papasnap Maher]

Yer. Do what Nicky Carter Said.

Do the training, or get a job and stop being a bum

I may be very wrong, but you across as VERRRY lazy. You want it all handed to you on a plate. If you want stuff in life, you have to work for it.

[Si-man]

Learn to drive over there. you pretty much drive down a road, take an eye test and thats about it. will pick up bad habits, but atleast it can get you a job.

[JT!]

Yer. Do what Nicky Carter Said.

Do the training, or get a job and stop being a bum

I may be very wrong, but you across as VERRRY lazy. You want it all handed to you on a plate. If you want stuff in life, you have to work for it.

Joe where the hell have you been. You need to buy my echo team seing as though you miss yours.

Anyway, i'm not lazy. Well i am a little, but, it's not that i can't be arsed to train 2 years for a job (even though that's what i said), i just can't spend that much time away from her. I can't even comprehend going out to see her a maxium of 4 times a year for the next two years - which i wouldn't be allowed to do anyway beuase of my job training. When i can just get married and get on with my life there.

Learn to drive over there. you pretty much drive down a road, take an eye test and thats about it. will pick up bad habits, but atleast it can get you a job.

Thing is with that though is i'd be stuck as a taxi driver, which is my idea of hell. But good thought though.

[JonMack]

Joe where the hell have you been. You need to buy my echo team seing as though you miss yours.

India haha.

[spode@thinkbikes]

I have a friend.....

And he told that me, that while he was in America, he went to work with his friend, doing DIY work (putting together furniture, painting etc.) for some cash in hand, contract type arrangement

[JT!]

That would be somewhat ideal, it's just finding someone willing to do it, without actually being in the country.

[Joe Papasnap Maher]

India haha.

Yerp..for the past 2 weeks.

[Simon]

i just can't spend that much time away from her. I can't even comprehend going out to see her a maxium of 4 times a year for the next two years - which i wouldn't be allowed to do anyway beuase of my job training.

Oh my.

You can either do the next 2 years properly, and spend the next 70-80 years happily together without fear of extradition, or work in the USA illegally as of tomorrow (for example) and live in fear for the next 2, and maybe not even live together for the next 70-80.

2 years out of 70-80, i know which option i'd rather take.

[nmt_oli]

Why are you so against the marriage option JT?

If you are as commited to this girl as you say you are, i honestly don't see a problem. It gets rid of all the hassle, allows you to be over there legally, and find a job in your own time.

[JT!]

Oh my.

You can either do the next 2 years properly, and spend the next 70-80 years happily together without fear of extradition, or work in the USA illegally as of tomorrow (for example) and live in fear for the next 2, and maybe not even live together for the next 70-80.

2 years out of 70-80, i know which option i'd rather take.

Again, can't spend another 2 years here.

Why are you so against the marriage option JT?

If you are as commited to this girl as you say you are, i honestly don't see a problem. It gets rid of all the hassle, allows you to be over there legally, and find a job in your own time.

I'm not against it as such. If i were to get married it'd just be a legal thing no name changes or rings etc. Then have the proper thing when we're ready. But i'm going to end up married when i don't want to be. I supose it's more of a big deal to some people than it is to others.

[Tomm]

No I kinda agree with you here. Marrying someone who you met on the internet, who lives on the other side of the world seems a bit silly to me too. But to be honest, there doesn't seem to be that many other options. I guess it depends how serious you (both) consider marriage to be. Some people would see it as simply an easy way of getting into the country.

[Fish-Finger-er]

Thing is with that though is i'd be stuck as a taxi driver, which is my idea of hell. But good thought though.

according to something on msn homepage a while back(top 10 jobs for school leavers or something) you could be a trucker without a proper hgv test(i.e you take a written test, have a half arsed medical, and your on your way)

might be less your idea of hell(if someone asked me if id like to drive big rigs, id just jump at the chance, but local multi drop and the like probably wouldnt be too shabby either.

as for the taxi driver thing, it migh be your idea of hell, but again if someone said to me "right go to america, stay at hayden panietterres place for a few months, youve got to get a job for a bit, before you get married, then you get citizenship and a proper job" id shovel dog crap 12 hours a day for the next 18 months. get what im saying, if shes worth all this(due to my attitude on dating, sex, relationships and young love. i dont quite comprehend how hard you must of fallen for her, and the lengths your willing to go to) surely shes worth being a cabbie for a bit for.

[nmt_oli]

I'm not against it as such. If i were to get married it'd just be a legal thing no name changes or rings etc. Then have the proper thing when we're ready. But i'm going to end up married when i don't want to be. I supose it's more of a big deal to some people than it is to others.

I know what your saying, but it kinda sounds like your being hypocrytical.

You seem so willing to commit, and you say she means so much to you that your willing to sacrifice your life as you know it (to be honest, i don't know the otherside of the coin, as you have already said shes not willing to move over here, but have avoided stating the reasons, which is fair enough, but does lead to the question "is she in as deep as you are?").

"But i'm going to end up married when i don't want to be."

What are you afraid of? The commitment? Your hardly short of that right now! That it won't work? Then surely you would have dropped the whole idea by now, you've known this girl long enough.

So its a "step up" in the relationship, so is moving in together. So what if you have to marry first, just have a f**k off great big moving in party, and make a big deal of it.

"I supose it's more of a big deal to some people than it is to others."

Don't get me wrong, marriage is a big deal. I wouldn't go out and just marry anyone. But this isn't anyone JT, why else would you be trying so hard?