Captain Scarlet Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) Well I had been thinking this through with some friends, Hope are a large and reputable company for almost all styles of biking.Pro2 hubs are a common favourite for trials bikers, I have one on my front wheel, and lots of stock riders love the rear freehubs.But what I can't get my head around is the fact how they only make a rear freehub spaced for 26".I mean, if they made one for 20" bikes, it would probably be the best mod freehub on the market.The Deng freehub is one option but are apparently naff, and Chris King Bmx hubs are way to expensive for most people, only a few people really can spend that much money on a hub and can justify it by using it to its full potential.There is also the profile hub, but the Pro2 would offer another choice of hub and £30 cheaper (if the same price as a 135mm one).I think Hope should make them, Profile hubs are BMX hubs and may not fair up to standard to a Pro2 that could be built specifically for trials use, and only a few places sell the Profiles with disc mount.As well as the fact how a Pro2 sounds lush.I personally would have bought one immediately if they made them for a mod frame.Now here comes the poll, who thinks Hope should make them? as I would love to have a Hope Freehub to match my front one. Edited October 20, 2007 by thutley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVWOCI WVS Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Nope, Hope are a mountain bike company and it wouldnt be worth their while.I mean mods come from BMX's hence the BMX rear hub spacing. Hope have only ever made 135mm (MTB) or 130mm (Road) rear hubs and they would have to completely start from scratch to make a rear mod freehub...it would be considered quite a niche market aswell so it isnt worth the effort on their part.would be nice though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted October 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 But thats two markets, Trials bikes and BMX.They make the Mono Trials and that is designed trials specific, so why not adjust an already trials used hub so it can be used for mod.I mean theres lots of Mod riders like myself who have already invested in front hubs by Hope, but can't go no further than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.McMillan Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 thats a joke, although if its poss to run a free wheel and a pro2 that wud be fun if it gave you millions of engagement points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVWOCI WVS Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 (edited) thats a joke, although if its poss to run a free wheel and a pro2 that wud be fun if it gave you millions of engagement pointsno, would be shite. would engage twice and feel really spongey. would have to engage the freehub then the freewheel. Edited October 19, 2007 by samdoman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I think I'm right in saying that a King BMX hub shares the same shell as the ISO/classic. It's only the freehub/axle that's different. So perhaps a similar thing could be done with a Hope Pro II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 They made a pro 2 TRIALS, so how would there be no interest? because there already making trials parts, so they know people are interested, mono TRIALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllllllllllllllll also.So stop talkin shite, they should make one, but i dont ride mod, but theyd be good.Matx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Just buy a profile, put your mind at rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Mods are gay so they shouldn't. Only joking before people start sulking.I'll mention it next time i go in. If you PM Trialnoir on here he is good friends with Hopes cheif designer.Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnyMilton Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Maybe if they made it fit a mod, and stuck with the Free-body of hub, it means in the long run you are saving money, by not buying a freewill and just have to buy a screw on sprocket for ur crank about using a fixed sprocket on the rear, it would be brillant and would save money!And did any of that make sence?lolJohny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Mods are gay so they shouldn't. Only joking before people start sulking.I'll mention it next time i go in. If you PM Trialnoirpete wright on here he is good friends with Hopes cheif designer.Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 I thought he owned owned it?? Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Who needs em? leave em alone... ENO's are great, just dont be a chav and wear trackies... problem solved happy daysmuch love x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 (edited) Nope, Hope are a mountain bike company and it wouldnt be worth their while.I mean mods come from BMX's hence the BMX rear hub spacing. Hope have only ever made 135mm (MTB) or 130mm (Road) rear hubs and they would have to completely start from scratch to make a rear mod freehub...it would be considered quite a niche market aswell so it isnt worth the effort on their part.would be nice though!Nice ignorance on your part, completely dimissing the fact that like everyone else has mentioned, Hope already make trials specific parts, Tartybikes even got custom engraved brakes/hubs from them to sell, so they're obviously making a fair amount of money from the products, otherwise it wouldn't be worthwhile to make trials specific parts with a trials shop logo on them. Think about how many people use Hope hubs, only a few years ago the XC/Mono was THE hub to use when Chris Kings were rarer than rocking horse shit, and so expensive only the real pro's could afford them, if they wanted to. Now how many people use a Pro2? I reckon it's above 50% of the stock riders in the country, with the rest either using a different Hope model, a King, or a Deng/Try-All hub.I think that it would be a smart move on Hopes part, if the modifications werent too hard (eg. using the same hub shell, just with a redesigned axle, I don't know if this is possible though). Even if it required a complete redesign of the hub shell, I still think it would be a valid idea, I know if I didn't have a King I'd much rather run a rear Hope hub than a FFW.All in all, good idea man.EDIT: Simpson, if that's how everyone thought, trials would never evolve."Who needs trials specific frames/hubs/rims/tyres/stems/brakes/etc.? leave em alone... Generic MTB parts are great" Edited October 20, 2007 by MonsterJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onza Kieron Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 I support the idea of hope making a mod hub, I praise Hope brakes everyday and likewise by their hubs, swear by them....GREAT ENGLISH COMPANY KEEPING IT REAL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esfrost Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 It would be really great to get those hope pro2 hubs in mod size, and it would be much more than great to get them in disc verison. Im pretty sure, a lot of people would use them in there bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 I'll buy one.But if they don't make it with a rear disc, then I won't. That would be gay, considering the rear stock version has a disc mount.Do it Hope, make Muel proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 We've already pre-ordered a batch as a bit of a kick up the bum to get the prototypes made! We keep pestering them but no joy yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Who needs em? leave em alone... ENO's are great, just dont be a chav and wear trackies... problem solved happy daysmuch love xNothing wrong with wearing trackies when riding I do. They are very comfy to ride in and dont get you all sweaty like jeans Back to topic, I could understand if they made it freehub style where you put on the cog you want screw on the lock ring and away you go, however a screw on hub would be pointless whats to gain from a screw on Hope Hub over *insert mod screw on hub here*, they do the say thing, which is rolling as you screw on a cog or a freewheel normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 We've already pre-ordered a batch as a bit of a kick up the bum to get the prototypes made! We keep pestering them but no joy yet...they should make some, easy to do aswell, i used a load of parts from my prototypes to make a mod hub for matt rushton, unfortunately he moved to stock before i managed to finish it. basically i used a standard hope pro 2 shell( 8/9 speed bodied one) with a 6 speed ratchet body, to give the narrow width of a mod, axle needed modifying slightly but was'nt that hard to do, end caps also required facing to get the correct mod spacing,maybe there is a market for a pro 2 mod? who knows, would be good to see a batch of them madeash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Naa i dont think they should bother unless there gonna be cheaper than profile , as people will prob just get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jones Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 ...i cant see any downsides for us riders here? I mean yeh we have profiles, but the more choice the better right? But yet we still complain.After seeing other posts i can see how it would be beneficial to Hope aswell. I'm a defo thumbs up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 personally i think its abit of a no brainer for hope - the modifications required seem fairly minimal and there is definately a market..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 personally i think its abit of a no brainer for hope - the modifications required seem fairly minimal and there is definately a market.....yeah, but it is also an incentive to get a real mans bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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