Danny Kearns Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Right i built my wheel up today...Now. None drive side...The spokes are like flat in the build...Looks perfect on none drive side...Now. When it comes to the drive side. The spokes seem to be "Sticking out". Not through the holes i mean at the side. I got pictures but i don't think it shows what i mean.Also the hub is not central. Also some spokes seem to stick out alot more than others on random holes...Yet all spokes are the same length...Any idea from that pathetic description what i have done wrong ? I tensioned the wheel evenly.Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy wonka Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 it needs to be dishedput it in your frame and you'll see which direction the rim needs to gotighten all the spokes on the side it needs to gomake sure its equal though, do like 1/2 a turn for each spoke on that side at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) Those drive side spokes don't look anywhere near tensioned enough. The drive side needs to have slightly more tension that the non-drive side. Get your wheel in your frame and whichever way the rim needs to go (to the right though in this case) tighten all the spokes on that side by the same amount. If i were you i'd get that wheel in the frame and start with 2 full turns on each drive side spoke to increase the tension then try and get it central by tightening/lossening whichever side is necessary until its bang in the middle of the frame.EDIT: Yeah, you've beuilt it 2x. You need it built 3X i'd imagine. Get all them spokes out and do it again. Edited September 22, 2007 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 you got enough crosses? looks like 2X to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 yeap... happened to me when i tried rebuilding my wheel radial on one side and 2x the other.. spokes are too short / too long for the way your lacing i expect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted September 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Shall i just order some of these:http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=10168N' tell the lads at Tarty im going need them for a Try-All mod hub on a DX32 32 hole for a 3X build ?Would it make life easier ?Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 EDIT: Yeah, you've beuilt it 2x. You need it built 3X i'd imagine. Get all them spokes out and do it again.you got enough crosses? looks like 2X to me yeap... happened to me when i tried rebuilding my wheel radial on one side and 2x the other.. spokes are too short / too long for the way your lacing i expectShall i just order some of these:http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=10168N' tell the lads at Tarty im going need them for a Try-All mod hub on a DX32 32 hole for a 3X build ?Would it make life easier ?Danny.?Going by what everyone else has said, just delace and rebuild 3X and I imagine it would be fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 2 cross ftl. Build it 3 cross Danny.as Kris said, it should be ok then.Max.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 If it's 36h go 4x if you can. You should be able to even if it is a 19" rim. If 32h 3x is only the choice.Not sure on spoke lengths though for 19".HERE, nice spokes. Double butted and alloy nipples. Plus your get 50 rather than 32 which Tarty will give you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 If you make all the spokes come through the same like stick out the same your wheel will go striaight.Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVWOCI WVS Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 If you make all the spokes come through the same like stick out the same your wheel will go striaight.Matt Rushtonwhat thi guy says is a good starting point, but it will mean the wheel wont be dished properly. those spokes look like theyre for 3 cross so re lace it (under, under, over pattern) and then it should all be fine If you make all the spokes come through the same like stick out the same your wheel will go striaight.Matt Rushtonwhat thi guy says is a good starting point, but it will mean the wheel wont be dished properly. those spokes look like theyre for 3 cross so re lace it (under, under, over pattern) and then it should all be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEvil270183 Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 rebuild it 3 cross, tighten each spoke up so the thread off each spoke is just inside each nipple, then you know there all equal. start tightening in equal turns until they start to get tight and if the spokes are correct size then the wheel shouldnt be too far from centre. whack it in frame and get it centre or use dishing tool. get wheel tensioned nicely and centred... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Take them outRebuild it 3x not 2xno need to replace perfectly fine spokes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted September 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Ok...Gone for the 3 cross earlier...ermm...the spokes are all different sizes .Im fooked.Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 so you've already built it 3x and it didn't work, so you tried 2x and that hasn't either? When you did 3x, was it the same problem just maybe slightly different lengths of "exposure"? if so it may be 4x which isn't as uncommon as you may think. If you really want to persevere and save the pennies, try it 4x. If not, stop trying to make a square pig fit in a round hole and get the right sized spokes off tarty dave + adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEvil270183 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 usually the driveside spokes are shorter as that side of the axle is wider to accept cassette, freewheel etc. unless its zero dish and you can use both spokes same size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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