liamshannon Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 hi i was just wondering what bike IS better a ZOO PYTHON OR A MONTY PR THANKS LIAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 oh dear, stop with the gay capitals for a start.any who, i ride a python, so python gets my vote, PR's tend to snap alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koxxtrials Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 the advantage with a pr is that it is dual disc but python is probably better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 the advantage with a pr is that it is dual disc but python is probably betterplease tell me how that is an advantage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil Jsy Chris Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 The PR is lighter and shorter but they do tend to snap alot. The python is quite long but very strong, altogether I would go for the python. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@Flawless Bikes Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Go on give in and get a python just like everyone else in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duggyd Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 oh dear, stop with the gay capitals for a start.I lolled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koxxtrials Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 i ment it is better to have a dual disc hs33s are useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilf Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Python definately my brother's mate had a PR,it snapped under the down tube and the geo was all wrong.The only advantage that the PR has over the python is that it has a rear disc mount but you can always make a mount for a python. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@Flawless Bikes Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 Whats with the disc loving, discs are crap on the back. Just have a well set up maggie or vee brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Trials 31 Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 I would go with the PR cause they ride really well. I rode a Python and it just felt weird to me. It felt like something was wrong with the geo! PR all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilf Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 HS33 are all right but they don't work in the wet besides they eat your pads and your rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Mitchinson Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 they eat your rim.How?Do you mean having a grind eats your rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 please tell me how that is an advantage?Well, stating the obvious, you can have a rear disc frame at a reasonable price. As said, Dual disc is good, if its set up right...don't knock it until you've tried it.Whats with the disc loving, discs are crap on the back. Just have a well set up maggie or vee brake.Whats with the disc hating? You ride a Zoo and you haven't a clue about rear discs; maybe someones bike that you rode once upon a time with a crappy setup. Discs do have a lot of hold and are sound in all weather conditions. Ask anyone with an 07 Hope on the rear what they think of it and usually the feedback is rather good. They pretty much set themselves up if they're bled well, and then you only need to worry about buying new pads several months down the line. I'd say the only downfall is smacking the disc on walls...but I've never done it yet.Compared to HS33's, yes they're good solid brakes...but personally they're build to toy town standards, the TPA always f**ks up, the pads disolve infront of your eyes and to get a decent brake out of them you have to ruin your rear rim.Meh, each to their own I suppose; but I know what I'm sticking with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Well, stating the obvious, you can have a rear disc frame at a reasonable price. As said, Dual disc is good, if its set up right...don't knock it until you've tried it.Whats with the disc hating? You ride a Zoo and you haven't a clue about rear discs; maybe someones bike that you rode once upon a time with a crappy setup. Discs do have a lot of hold and are sound in all weather conditions. Ask anyone with an 07 Hope on the rear what they think of it and usually the feedback is rather good. They pretty much set themselves up if they're bled well, and then you only need to worry about buying new pads several months down the line. I'd say the only downfall is smacking the disc on walls...but I've never done it yet.Compared to HS33's, yes they're good solid brakes...but personally they're build to toy town standards, the TPA always f**ks up, the pads disolve infront of your eyes and to get a decent brake out of them you have to ruin your rear rim.Meh, each to their own I suppose; but I know what I'm sticking with i totally agree with you mate, personal preference, but trials just isnt trials without a squeaky rear brake on a more serious note, have you ever used coustsink pads? coustsinks and a echo '07 rim quite frankly wank all over any rear disc in my opinion rear discs are really nice, hold like a whore and everything, but im way to scared to side hop a rear disc frame, cause ill most likely twat the disc lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.loves.boys Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 oh dear, stop with the gay capitals for a start.any who, i ride a python, so python gets my vote, PR's tend to snap alotbullshitpr for the win.pyhhos are gayeven though ive only rode the 07 i dislike it.and the others i hate.although the 04 python looks nice..but monty all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 bullshitpr for the win.pyhhos are gayeven though ive only rode the 07 i dislike it.and the others i hate.although the 04 python looks nice..but monty all the waylook through here and see how many people have said there PR has snapped.dont have a go at me, i love montys, just not the PR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 look through here and see how many people have said there PR has snapped.dont have a go at me, i love montys, just not the PRTi's snap as easy as the PR's. Well they crack. A Pr would proberly be abit stronger as they are abit heaver.Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tylerlovesalex Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 python 07 has a weired geo it makes the front end feel heavy. pr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Zoo Python is the nicer riding frame in my opinion...But everyone is different and feels better on different geometry etc.I only like the Zoo pythons from 2005 and lower. The 2006 and 2007 have both felt awful.Monty's have always felt to light and short for my liking.It's all a case of what you feel comfortable on.Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 the advantage with a pr is that it is dual disc but python is probably betterThat isnt a adavantage as personally double disk feels rank and rim brake gives you much more feel and controll.Answer to the topic is that really there is no answer, because neither are better as they have different geo so suit different riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 How?Do you mean having a grind eats your rim.Well obviously. Read your replies before you post them Wilf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Python definately my brother's mate had a PR,it snapped under the down tube and the geo was all wrong.The only advantage that the PR has over the python is that it has a rear disc mount but you can always make a mount for a python.The geo was all wrong that is one of the most sucsessfull mod geos aroundAnd as for people saying they crack well im pritty sure a few pythons have cracked.And as for people saying discs are better as they work in wet well thats not always the case. Rear disc feels horrible in my opinion, they dont hold as well as rim brakes especially vee brakes, discs arnt always better in wet but yeah are usually better in muddy conditions; they can be tempimentral as sometimes works other times doesnt and you get brake fade. If you ever split oil on your disc you would have to buy a new disc where as rim brakes you just clean rim and pads. I think to many people just go and run double disk these days because they imediately think because its a disc it will be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendy Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Monty 221PR for the win, not just becasue i have one but i have rode deng frames and they feel nice although a bit long and slightly heavier. The PR has a perfect geo and feels perfect length, only problem is that you could say the bit were a seat would normally go on a normal bike is that it smacks you in the ass check from time to time on sidehops if you dont tuck fully to the side . But overall the Monty is a decent riding bike.Thanks Hendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Wilson Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 (edited) zoo pyhton! don't like the montys no offence to anyone feel cramped on themste Edited September 25, 2007 by trials ste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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