sapu Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 so just loook....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexymike Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 if you didnt drive over it it wouldnt breakits a shame they have this rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapu Posted September 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 its the fike of a rider from hungari( a good one)..he did a hook and the frame snapedhttp://tv.isg.si/site/filebrowser/p1sti3 misckolc mc here is a vid from hungary ..the guy withe the fluo shirt is thye rider ......he dosent snap the frame in this vidsorry for posting vid in the chat thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Well really people moan about them snapping but koxx make competition bikes, there bikes are light to create good bikes for competitions and because of this they arnt as strong as a frame thats been made to stand up to street riding. I dotn ever remember koxx marketing there frames as street frames that will stand up to abuse so what do you expect. And no one can really moan about snapping a v-racing seeing as it is soley a comp frame as koxx give it thinner tubeing to make it lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 until now, i never realised that anodising process actually covers the tubes internally aswell, cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 until now, i never realised that anodising process actually covers the tubes internally aswell, coolO yeh well spotted, me neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 makes sense, never really thought about it, not bothered like might start a new trend though, kids might want different coloured internal tubes, so they can go 'woooowwwweeee' when the frames snap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 So how much does a Koxx V-Racing frame weigh then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David20 Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Walked past that at fort bill, was pretty shocked that it was completely snapped! Dude that owned it must of been gutted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 until now, i never realised that anodising process actually covers the tubes internally aswell, coolThat means that these frames are made with one additional thing in mind - that you WILL see the tubes from the inside after a few months of riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_skj0lsvik_ Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 I love KOXX, best brand out there imo... Its just a shame that they are so expensive, they're incredibly lush to ride I feel sorry for the guy with the v-racing though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Not the most well thought out or helpful brand out there though. I've just snapped the bearings in my Try-All BB and despite being described everywhere as having ''replacable sealed cartridge bearings'' apparently you are not able to get hold of these...... seems pointless to describe it that way if its impossible to get the replacement parts....They have a lot of good ideas, but there not nessecerily carried out particularly well. It does get tiresome that when anything 'Koxx' or 'Try-All' breaks that someone says...''well its designed for competition use'', like thats 100% justifiable.I dont know, Koxx are great in some areas, shit in others! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Im pritty sure you will be able to get replacement bearings, get the number from the old ones and take it to a bearing factors and they will have some there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 The fact it's designed for "competition use" means nothing. Bikes are ridden hard weather it's on street or natural, in fact I probably ride harder when I'm on natural. But at the end of the day, bike's break, yeah it's a shame, but nothing can last forever, especially not a frame, after all, they're designed to be ridden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Hmm in saying that my Echo Freehub broke after i went to the quarry. That's blatently a coincidence but funny anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 (edited) Not the most well thought out or helpful brand out there though. I've just snapped the bearings in my Try-All BB and despite being described everywhere as having ''replacable sealed cartridge bearings'' apparently you are not able to get hold of these...... seems pointless to describe it that way if its impossible to get the replacement parts....Did at one stage replace some parts from my Try-All with ones from the Truvativ. I'm pretty sure both BB's take the same bearings in terms of diameter. Not sure about the width thoughEdit: Truvativ Gigapipe DH/SL that is Edited September 21, 2007 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 The fact it's designed for "competition use" means nothing. Bikes are ridden hard weather it's on street or natural, in fact I probably ride harder when I'm on natural. But at the end of the day, bike's break, yeah it's a shame, but nothing can last forever, especially not a frame, after all, they're designed to be ridden.You misunderstand the term competition use, for competions you want as light as bike as possible really so you have to sacrafice strenght which isnt your biggest factor in compeitions its got nowt to do weather you ride harder on street or natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew62 Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Did at one stage replace some parts from my Try-All with ones from the Truvativ. I'm pretty sure both BB's take the same bearings in terms of diameter. Not sure about the width thoughEdit: Truvativ Gigapipe DH/SL that isI ended up just ordering a Gigapipe DH, there £29.99 at some online shop - i don't have any spares and i don't really want to spend ages trying to find the right bearings which will probably cost around £20 anyway! But still it is annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 You misunderstand the term competition use, for competions you want as light as bike as possible really so you have to sacrafice strenght which isnt your biggest factor in compeitions its got nowt to do weather you ride harder on street or natural.I don't misunderstand anything, and I'm well aware companies make bikes as light as possible for comp use. Please don't try and patronise me, I was stating that the fact it's designed for comps doesnt mean anything, it should still have strength, because when you're riding a comp you're going to be riding hard. What I was saying is that I personally ride natural harder than I ride street, so if I was to ride a comp, I would ride even harder, so the bike should be able to put up with that kind of stress, no matter the weight, but I was also saying that bikes do break, and it's just a part of trials life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 I don't misunderstand anything, and I'm well aware companies make bikes as light as possible for comp use. Please don't try and patronise me, I was stating that the fact it's designed for comps doesnt mean anything, it should still have strength, because when you're riding a comp you're going to be riding hard. What I was saying is that I personally ride natural harder than I ride street, so if I was to ride a comp, I would ride even harder, so the bike should be able to put up with that kind of stress, no matter the weight, but I was also saying that bikes do break, and it's just a part of trials life.It has bugger all to do with how hard you ride when it comes to competitions, i would like to see you design a frame that is up to competition weight and scratch but will last a long time its not easily done and im sure if it was then koxx would have done it. If you take competitions serious enough then you will be changing your bike every so often like alot of the good riders in this country do and in the world; thats is why strenght isnt the key factor it doesnt matter if you ride harder on natural or street at all its got nothing to do with that. And im not a koxx bummer or biased if anyone thinks that because i dont ride a koxx and dont really like many of there parts as im a street rider who values strenght more than weight, i just hate it when someone slates a company like koxx for parts breaking when they fully knew its a competition company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 It has bugger all to do with how hard you ride when it comes to competitions, i would like to see you design a frame that is up to competition weight and scratch but will last a long time its not easily done and im sure if it was then koxx would have done it. If you take competitions serious enough then you will be changing your bike every so often like alot of the good riders in this country do and in the world; thats is why strenght isnt the key factor it doesnt matter if you ride harder on natural or street at all its got nothing to do with that. And im not a koxx bummer or biased if anyone thinks that because i dont ride a koxx and dont really like many of there parts as im a street rider who values strenght more than weight, i just hate it when someone slates a company like koxx for parts breaking when they fully knew its a competition company.I wouldn't be able to design a frame, and I'm not saying that Koxx suck because they break, I ride an XTP ffs. I'm not bashing Koxx at all I don't even understand why you're arguing me. All I've said is that the bike should be able to put up with the stresses of comp riding, but bikes break, and it sucks. However I think it's slightly stupid that Koxx are designing frames that dont last a whole season, because they're relying on the fact that riders are either sponsored, or are going to buy a new frame every three months, money money money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakley Posted September 22, 2007 Report Share Posted September 22, 2007 its the fike of a rider from hungari( a good one)..he did a hook and the frame snapedhttp://tv.isg.si/site/filebrowser/p1sti3 misckolc mc here is a vid from hungary ..the guy withe the fluo shirt is thye rider ......he dosent snap the frame in this vidsorry for posting vid in the chat threadno he didn't! he wasgoing through the north shore section at fort bill, kicked to do a gap, wheel span, his front hit the landing, and his bike just collapsed into the gap, with him following it, about 8 feet down. i was stood only a matter of feet away from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Once again, what is the weight of the frame?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2rekkk Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Well there is something you dont see every day all koxx frames souldnt be so easy to snapatleast i have heard that koxx levelboss frames should be pretty durable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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