willy wonka Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 just to settle a little debate from todaydoes anodizing take off weight.i said it does because its removing material.. anyone know the DEFFINITE answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy wonka Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 any sort of proof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam-Griffin Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Ask tartyadam as hes the king of weight saving and anodizing , i have no proof bu it does take off weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 just to settle a little debate from todaydoes anodizing take off weight.i said it does because its removing material.. anyone know the DEFFINITE answer?You sort of answered your own question there mate But yeah, ask tarty Adam, he anodised a whole frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 anodizing puts weight on....metal + oxygen = metal oxide....or...heavier as they call it...lighter than paint mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy wonka Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 You sort of answered your own question there mate But yeah, ask tarty Adam, he anodised a whole frame.nah i never, im saying thats what i think, i dont know if its true but thats my reasoning for it making it lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 anodizing puts weight on....metal + oxygen = metal oxide....or...heavier as they call it...lighter than paint mind.muhahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boswell Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) An anodized coating is basically a very stable coloured rust. EDIT. I think Edited September 16, 2007 by Boswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixed Pants™ Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 anodizing puts weight on....metal + oxygen = metal oxide....or...heavier as they call it...lighter than paint mind.No, it's removing metal and colouring the 'layer' underneath, that's my understanding anyway... It DEFINITELY makes things lighter though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy wonka Posted September 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Yesit does take off weightIt DEFINITELY makes things lighter though.muhahahahanow its my turn for the evil laughmuhahahahahayou lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 anodising is a process which makes the natural oxide layer on the aluminium thicker. as has been pointed out, this is metal + oxygen to produce an oxide, therefore it is heavier. Also the oxide layer is then dyed to give the desired colour, the dye is also adding weight.Its worth it for the small increase however, as the incresed oxide layer protects the aluminium (unlike iron oxide, which spreads). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) After you finish the whole process of applying dye and the sealant, the item you've been working on will be heavier. But that's nothing comparing to how detrimental anodizing is in the long run. Just read this:Anodizing makes the surface slightly harderHard surface = less scratchesScratches = weight lossLess scratches = less weight lossBasically, it's better to have soft parts so that when you accidentally scratch them, you remove a big chunk of metal. That will keep your bike nice and light.And what is Deng trying to do? Force anodizing on us so we have to ride heavy bikes! Edited September 16, 2007 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 (edited) anodising is a process which makes the natural oxide layer on the aluminium thicker. as has been pointed out, this is metal + oxygen to produce an oxide, therefore it is heavier. Also the oxide layer is then dyed to give the desired colour, the dye is also adding weight.Its worth it for the small increase however, as the incresed oxide layer protects the aluminium (unlike iron oxide, which spreads).After you finish the whole process of applying dye and the sealant, the item you've been working on will be heavier. But that's nothing comparing to how detrimental anodizing is in the long run. Just read this:Anodizing makes the surface slightly harderHard surface = less scratchesScratches = weight lossLess scratches = less weight lossBasically, it's better to have soft parts so that when you accidentally scratch them, you remove a big chunk of metal. That will keep your bike nice and light.And what is Deng trying to do? Force anodizing on us so we have to ride heavy bikes!now its my turn for the evil laughmuhahahahahayou loseGrant you unt they offered no proof whatsoever that anodising makes frames lighter.i am rightmuhah Edited September 17, 2007 by afroman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 no proof? oxygen has mass think it's our turn for the evil muahehehe....hahamuahinur- that rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 (edited) no proof? oxygen has mass think it's our turn for the evil muahehehe....hahamuahinur- that rocks nah i meant the the people who say anodising makes frames lighter havent shown any proofmuahaha Edited September 17, 2007 by afroman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy wonka Posted September 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 inur didnt give any proof, he gave a reason you should buy lighter frames, so that you will lose weight off it when you fall off.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddy Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 it actually makes it lighter as before anything can be died it must be clean, it is dipped into acid to take a layer off so the dye can key into the material, when it is dipped in acid the material taken off is greather than the dye so will weigh less overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy wonka Posted September 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 it actually makes it lighter as before anything can be died it must be clean, it is dipped into acid to take a layer off so the dye can key into the material, when it is dipped in acid the material taken off is greather than the dye so will weigh less overall muhahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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