monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) So - whats the difference between the raid and the licence?Will they be full build or just frame and how much??The Raid is a budget(ish) street/24" cruiser/park/jump bike. From the looks of it it is in no way designed for trials in any shape or form. The License however is a do everything trials bike, for use on the street, at the park, natural etc but leaning more heavily towards street trials rather than pure street.I'm guessing that the License will be mainly available as a frame only like the ET was and like the Justice is, although pimped Martyn replica full builds probably aren't out of the question.That's my take anyway.Edit: Oh yeah, and Martyn said on Monday that he was hoping for a release of around October.Dave Edited August 30, 2007 by monkeyseemonkeydo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 what an obvious shot at the competitionA shot at the competition? I dont ride for or distribute Ashton bikes, so how can that be taken as a shot at the competition...?I think the reason the ET wasnt bought as quickly, is due to it being ahead of its time. Thats probably the wrong way of wording it, but it was like the first of its kind, people were possibly a bit skeptical of the idea. Now, the concept is as commonly used as 20" and 26". It has just taken some time to bloom into what it has become, and I assume Martyn wants to get back that market that was originally set when the ET came out. Anywho on subject, I believe it will be available frame only, at a competitive market value, around £250-350ish mark, AT A GUESS, dont quote me on that pricing as I honestly dont know, just making an assumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 nice erm "trials bike" go on some one argue with me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) nice erm "trials bike" go on some one argue with me....Lol Dave that's what he uses to piss around riding street/park on..like a play bike. Cos of the build BUT I'm assuming the frame's also designed for 24" trials with the right parts put on it. Same as the ET was! But hopefully much stronger (wasn't that their main problem, being uber breakable?!) Edited August 30, 2007 by the boon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Lol Dave that's what he uses to piss around riding street/park on..like a play bike. Cos of the build I dunno... That's the exact same setup he's riding trials demo's on now (mixing between the Justice and the License) except he's currently running rigid forks. Gearing is pretty trialsy and the rest of the bike's set up like a street trials beast, certainly not a big wheeled BMX that's for sure. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 nice erm "trials bike" go on some one argue with me....Here's a nice big picture - maybe this makes it clearer. Small bashguard, single speed - it's just an Ashton ET with a fork on - perhaps you don't class that as a trials bike but meh Interesting things I can see: Cheap-looking Truvative cranks + bash - either this is one of Martyn's sponsors (?) or a sign that this could be available as a full bike?74 Kingz tensionerOrange branding on the rockshox forks - Maybe we'll be getting a new orange-branded trials frame soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Clark Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 DX32 24" rim?I didn't know they did 24".Orange badge on the headtube, Orange are the company making the Raid bikes, so I guess they are making the Licenses too.Plus he obviously has an inability to cut down hoses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) Cheap-looking Truvative cranks + bash - either this is one of Martyn's sponsors (?) or a sign that this could be available as a full bike?74 Kingz tensionerOrange branding on the rockshox forks - Maybe we'll be getting a new orange-branded trials frame soon?Not truvativ, Race Face, one of his sponsors74 Kingz Tensioner, because he couldnt find another tensioner he likedNot Orange branded, just a sticker. The Ashton frames are now made by Orange, so a sticker on his forks just to advertise OrangeEdit - long hoses are as he does foot-jam Tailwhips in his demos Edited August 30, 2007 by Andy@NBR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Here's a nice big picture - maybe this makes it clearer. Small bashguard, single speed - it's just an Ashton ET with a fork on - perhaps you don't class that as a trials bike but meh Interesting things I can see: Cheap-looking Truvative cranks + bash - either this is one of Martyn's sponsors (?) or a sign that this could be available as a full bike?74 Kingz tensionerOrange branding on the rockshox forks - Maybe we'll be getting a new orange-branded trials frame soon?sorry thasts a bit more trialsy, it looked like it had summet daft like 44t chainring, and no bashgaurdthose forks are ashtons own rockshox are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Ben (gianttrials) on here rode one last week, and he said it manuals nicely, and is quite flicky and nice to ride on. Yeah it has Alex rims on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Orange badge on the headtube, Orange are the company making the Raid bikes, so I guess they are making the Licenses too.Orange + Ashton was a deal that was made aaaaages ago, but nothing seems to have really come of it, yet. I wonder if these are even made in a different factory to the ETs? Or if Orange have made any changes at all.Edit - long hoses are as he does foot-jam Tailwhips in his demosIt looks like he's done a tailwhip/barspin or something - the hoses look like they're already twisted once. I was trying to work out why he had that routing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISA RIDER! Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Does anyone have any details about the new Ashton License? Just any info the geo, release date and the price would be useful. There is a lack of decent 24" frames (with a seat post) around at the moment, without going for a leeson/curtis which are out of my price range alright chap!!!!i was on the pro-to type about a month ago , it rides real nice quite flicky, you sit slightly forward when your on the back wheel.but over all i liked it, you cant go wrong with keeping it real with a double triangle frame!!!and was told its gona retail at about the £270 £300 mark.hope this helps.cheers guys Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Do we know if you're gonna have to run a fork, or can you run rigids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISA RIDER! Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Do we know if you're gonna have to run a fork, or can you run rigids?when i was on the pro-to type it had ridged forks on so yeah you can run ridged forks!!!!cheers Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Do we know if you're gonna have to run a fork, or can you run rigids?well those forks are tiny, so id so so yer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Hey guys.....If your after an ashton then your in for a long wait ! Ashton distribute from orange, and i rang them up for a frame for myself, and all they've got for the next 6 MONTHS ! is the raid's Jarrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jones Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 the raids full build?r they out yet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 the raids full build?r they out yet??Yes they are avaliable to order through your local orange dealer. Where about are you from ? I'll tell you who you' local is. Jarrod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jones Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 (edited) Im from readingedit: price?? and i got my local dealer Edited September 3, 2007 by Ben Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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