Greetings Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Can somebody give some advice as to how to do them? I've seen them on videos, seen them live and still have no idea how to do one. I find the most difficult part is to start doing the backwards nose manual after the turn. How do you get the bike moving again once you've done the pivot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider_01 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 im just learning these myself nd so far i have noticed when you have done the pivot if you tilt your feet forward and lean towards the bars and release the brake a bit it gets you rolloing, but depending on how fast and hard you push determens on how fast you role hope iv helped and get some vids up when you can do then sean x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill_393 Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Can somebody give some advice as to how to do them? I've seen them on videos, seen them live and still have no idea how to do one. I find the most difficult part is to start doing the backwards nose manual after the turn. How do you get the bike moving again once you've done the pivot?www.thinkbikes.comI don't know any other rider who can do them better than my friend Dave Lowe. He's on the forum as well. He would be the best person to E mail. There's a few video's on the website with them on. The one that springs to mind is call "Something Cryptic"Hope that helpsDarren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Practice nose-rolls on a slope, and squeakers so you're completely at home 'catching' yourself with the front brake.As you're pivoting with the front brake on, get ready to push of backwards then let most if not all of the bite off the front brake.I'll try to put a video up.Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted August 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Here's a good one, the thing is that by looking at that vid you can't really learn how it's done. Youtube Video -> ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 try watching some danny mac vids pretty sure he does one from static on a rock to rail or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted August 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Just bumping this in case somebody has anything else to add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trix Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 (edited) Just bumping this in case somebody has anything else to add I can't say anything to help... But they are really cool.Theres a slow motion one in Danny Mac's section in Damnationten this may help I'll try find a link to the videoThis one if you haven't seen it. Edited August 26, 2007 by Trix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 I can't do these, and they really scare me (killed my ankle trying them ages ago). So take this with a pinch of salt. But...I think when you get to the point where you change direction (front wheel goes from rolling forwards to rolling backwards) you need to give it a bit of a flick of the hips, and try to kick the back wheel up higher. If you have ever tried to do brakeless squeakers (i.e. front hops backwards without hopping), it's the same sort of thing. As with most techniques though, the other thing that helps is commitment and speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loffa Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 (edited) I've tried to master the G-Turn for ages and I can get the bike rolling backwards but I have no idea how you can get it to turn on the front wheel while rolling. Though I guess that this might help you a bit: Have you ever seen the squeakers style fronthops (the ones where you do backwards nosemanuals instead of hopping backwards) done? They can be seen in the coustellier nottingham vid for example. Or even better, can you do them? The body movement that you use to get the bike rolling backwards is the same as you do while doing these. The point is to keep your body weight on (not over) the bars and keep your arms straight during the whole move (!), otherwise you'll lose your momentum. When doing the pivot, release the front brake just before reaching the 180 mark and lean forward a bit with your hips and upper body and kindof pull the bike torwards yourself by bending your knees so that you push the front wheel to the direction you want it to go. (ie torwards the rear wheel) This should make the bike roll backwards on front wheel and put you into the right position for the whole move (arms straight, knees bent a bit). Though I can't help you any further because I have no idea what to do to get the bike actually spinning. Edited August 26, 2007 by loffa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spode@thinkbikes Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Here's a good one, the thing is that by looking at that vid you can't really learn how it's done. Youtube Video -> ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted August 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Thanks guys, I can do the front hop with a short backwards nose manual so I know what move you're talking about. Going out to practice them now, still no luck with getting the bike to roll backwards on the front wheel though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lowe Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 The G turn is a smooth move, you just have to accept its going to take a long time, I have been doing front wheel moves for years now so I have g turns and roll backs down to a T, I’m doing squeakers with a blindfold on now to.I have found it’s one of the hardest moves to teach someone, the best way to start is by perfecting the squeaker tricks first. When you come to doing the G Turn the biggest problem is committing to releasing the front brake after the pivot. When I do the move I approach the turn as a stoppie but I wouldn’t advise trying that yet.Have a look at this video I do a few G Turns plus roll backs.http://www.thinkbikes.com/video/thinkbikessheppey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trix Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 The G turn is a smooth move, you just have to accept its going to take a long time, I have been doing front wheel moves for years now so I have g turns and roll backs down to a T, I’m doing squeakers with a blindfold on now to.Not on that bike lol. Can someone explain what squeakers is please? but dont go into a conversation about it I dont want to hi-jack the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy d Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Can someone explain what squeakers is please?Switzerland Squeakers? I think that's when you're up on the front wheel and you take your foot off the pedal, and use it to push on the front tyre to make the bike roll back, still up on the front wheel. Can I do it? No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Switzerland Squeakers? I think that's when you're up on the front wheel and you take your foot off the pedal, and use it to push on the front tyre to make the bike roll back, still up on the front wheel. Can I do it? No!Yes. If you watch that video that dave---thinkbikes.com put up, he does loads of them in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainchild Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Danny macaskill g turns for breakfast... enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scousertrials Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Fu#k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 oh dear hes good, off topic, but what was the song in the vid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainchild Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 oh dear hes good, off topic, but what was the song in the vid?song is by 'sworn amongst' - consumed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Danny macaskill g turns for breakfast... enjoythat is the first video in a long while that has made me think "whoa, original!" cheers for that J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I learnt on my trials bike, but they're easier to do on the BMX. You need to not be scared to get your weight over the bars - it's like if you ever tried to do front wheel hops, you need to be bold and get right forward. Once you get used to the balance point you can really fly into them. A steep headangle helps, and without much trouble you can start doing 360+, like in that video.Just lots of practice I suppose. Do the endo turn, but keep the bars turning and let the bike slip away underneath you. Be ready on the brake to catch it though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 song is by 'sworn amongst' - consumed REALLY off topic now, but could anyone send me it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Go quicker than you think you have to, put your head down and your hips near your stem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainchild Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 REALLY off topic now, but could anyone send me it?doubt the band would be happy with me giving away their copyright material but here is their website maybe they will help youSworn amongst websitecheers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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