Savage Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 By early next week I should have stock of MOE bottom brackets and brake pads. Eventually stems, cranks, and bars will reach production. The MOE brand has been developed in partnership with Tim from Trialsin, more details once the products are actually here.Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Any more details on the pads, what would you compare them to?Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted August 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Any more details on the pads, what would you compare them to?Matt Rushton Hi Matt, pads coming Monday, I start journey to Japan Sunday, otherwise I would have fitted a pair and reported back. I'll mail USA and ask them the question. The main aim of MOE as a brand is to offer good value for money, the pads and BB's will be priced to make them very affordable, can't quote now as we have to calculate a retail value that absorbs shipping, duty and exchange rate, prices later.Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSE Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Following on from Ben's comments, 1st shipment has arrived, MOE prices;ISIS bottom bracket. £32.50HS33 pads £9.50V brake pads £9.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 thats very good pricing!Need any body to test out the vee pads Fred? Bottom bracket seems to be very good vaule for money too, some realy nice features etc...Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSE Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 PM me your address Adam, I'll post you a set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 that bb looks just like the echo one yay if it is there beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy wonka Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 PM me your address Adam, I'll post you a set.can i test a set too? worth a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Good pricing!! Looks promising for MOE alreadyBtw is moe an acronym for something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Good pricing!! Looks promising for MOE alreadyBtw is moe an acronym for something?MOE = Me Or Echo.....Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 nice prices . they look high quality i'l be ordering a bb sometime next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Anyone needed to test the maggie version?? Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Trials Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) They look real good!Pads ive got on ymy v Brake (Stock tektro pads) are wearing in about a day on this grind!I may have to buy some if i can get some cash.Ash~ Edited August 27, 2007 by Ashkwil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkytrials Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Think i will be ordering some pads if i can persuade my mum I really need some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Has anyone got one of these BB's? Looks very good for the money. I take it they'll work with a front freewheel?Cheers,Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieldp Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Has anyone got one of these BB's? Looks very good for the money. I take it they'll work with a front freewheel?IndeedCheers,Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Has anyone got one of these BB's? Looks very good for the money. I take it they'll work with a front freewheel?Cheers,DaveAt a spindle length of 128mm, no problem with front freewheel.Whatever the bottom bracket you buy, always make sure that the cups will allow for front freewheel as well. There are a number of bottom brackets out there that are actually 73mm spacing, with a spacer behind the drive side cup to get to work in 68mm bottom bracket shell. This can be a problem when using White Industries (widest trials specific freewheel out there) front freewheel set up. Because the cup is spaced 5mm out by the spacer, in effect, you only have a 123mm spindle on the drive side. You see the potential for difficulty here, some (though certainly not all) front freewheel cranks using a thick bashring and/or White Industries freewheel might not clear with a spaced cup BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 At a spindle length of 128mm, no problem with front freewheel.Whatever the bottom bracket you buy, always make sure that the cups will allow for front freewheel as well. There are a number of bottom brackets out there that are actually 73mm spacing, with a spacer behind the drive side cup to get to work in 68mm bottom bracket shell. This can be a problem when using White Industries (widest trials specific freewheel out there) front freewheel set up. Because the cup is spaced 5mm out by the spacer, in effect, you only have a 123mm spindle on the drive side. You see the potential for difficulty here, some (though certainly not all) front freewheel cranks using a thick bashring and/or White Industries freewheel might not clear with a spaced cup BB.Hi Tim, cheers for the info. Can I ask you how the BB's compare to something like an Echo or Try-All BB? The Moe is a good bit cheaper than either of these and seems to include neat design features which actually makes the Moe a better bet...Cheers,Dave Marshall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Any koxx forks, with magura mounts yet ben? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hi Tim, cheers for the info. Can I ask you how the BB's compare to something like an Echo or Try-All BB? The Moe is a good bit cheaper than either of these and seems to include neat design features which actually makes the Moe a better bet...Cheers,Dave MarshallThe actual manufacturer of the BB is the same one of the other brands out there. However, when approaching these companies you get to select the type (material/hardness) of spindle, bearing and such. MOE BBs use harder material spindle and bearings than a similar looking brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 The actual manufacturer of the BB is the same one of the other brands out there. However, when approaching these companies you get to select the type (material/hardness) of spindle, bearing and such. MOE BBs use harder material spindle and bearings than a similar looking brand.So the BB's will be stronger than other companys ???Any other news on the pads Ben??Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 (edited) So the BB's will be stronger than other companys ???Any other news on the pads Ben??Matt RushtonI guess here would be a good place to better elaborate my take on BBs.First let us look at material strength. It is really in the eye of the beholder (or marketer, so some extent). Softer materials tend to bend, straight forward enough. Harder materials (in general, not looking for advanced lessons in metalurgy here) tend to snap. The difference is that the point at which the harder material fails (snaps) in most cases requires a bit more force. You could make an arguement that a bending spindle would be safer than a snapping one......but the cases of snapping spindles are reletively few, so in my eyes do not make the case.Bearings. Again, the harder the material the better. The smoother the races the better. The real trick here is trying to get as many bearings (of descent quality) into the BB so as to spread the load as far as possible. There are external cup BBs. While these do resolve issues of tiny/few bearings by increasing the area to house them, the cups themselves (where they thread into BB shell) become the stress point with the bearings being external providing further (unwanted) leverage on the threaded portion of cups. And there is the all too familiar issue too little space to install freewheel crank set ups.Weight. This is one part that going silly light is definatly not to you advantage.At the end of the day, BBs on trials bikes are squeezed into a 68mm BB shell. This means, no matter what we do (given that this is a sport that you smash your bike on rocks.....and the BB in particular takes the brunt of that impact) there is no such thing as the "perfect" BB. What it really comes to is how long can you make it last. It is a matter of when, not if, the device in question will be subdued by repeated impacts (particularly by those less smooth in landing).The MOE BB was an attempt to address as many issues as possible while keeping it in the realm of affordability. Keeping reletive balance between durability/quality and price is always the test of a good part.Someday there needs to be another system to specifically address out sport. Years ago there was a frame builder in Hungary called Yasec that made a frame with a custom BB/crank set up. It really looked to be the answer. Large diameter BB shell so it could house very large tube type spindle (light and strong) and alot of bearings. It was one off...............maybe I will see if I can dig up the pics off my old computer! Edited September 12, 2007 by Tim/Trialsin USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Looks promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 need anyone to put the bb through its paces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim/Trialsin USA Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 need anyone to put the bb through its paces?Thanks for the offer, but we actually put it through its paces before bringing it to market (novel idea, eh?!... ha, ha, ha). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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