dinobike Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Hias title, what is the first thing i should really learn. I have watched loads of videos of people wwho can get on the back wheel and hop on it but when i try my front wheel just comes in and out towards my body instead of the whole bike hopping. Any tips and is there a how to video as that would be greatmany thanksdino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosswaa Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 first things to learn is back wheel control and overall control of the bikeafter that the world is your oysterlolbest thing to do would be find a ledge a few feet high and balance your front wheel on it, use this to just hop on the spot and eventually move away from the ledge, this shuld help quite alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinobike Posted August 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Hithankshow do you mean front wheel control, also do you think i need to lean back a bit more as my front whel hardly stays up, any other ideas of what i could do anyone?thanksdino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosswaa Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Hithankshow do you mean front wheel control, also do you think i need to lean back a bit more as my front whel hardly stays up, any other ideas of what i could do anyone?thanksdinolol yeh i should say soits mainly to do with balancing, try and find the balancing point as best you can and you should stay up like a cobra! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Hias title, what is the first thing i should really learn. I have watched loads of videos of people wwho can get on the back wheel and hop on it but when i try my front wheel just comes in and out towards my body instead of the whole bike hopping. Any tips and is there a how to video as that would be greatmany thanksdinoThe Trashzen website is great, helped out a load of riders. Halfords sells dirty tricks and cunning stunts which is a good little video on how to ride. Ryan leech also has a dvd explaining how to ride... the majority of it being here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartD Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I was just about to make a similar topic, about which order is best to learn the tricks in, like... master the trackstand first, then bunny hops, then bunny hop track stand etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosswaa Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 to help with backwheel control, you could do things likedo a sequence of thing like- pedal hop> static backwheel hop x2> pedal hop> static x2 etcand just mix it up a littleuse your own style and keep practising, it also helps to ride with people who are pretty good and can help point stuff out like leaning back more etchope this helps a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartD Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Ryan leech also has a dvd explaining how to ride... the majority of it being hereLegend, that helps a LOT, looking forward to getting back out there now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinobike Posted August 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 hithis sounds a bit stupid but how do you pedal hop, still cannot do it.please helpmany thanksDINO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyfey Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Can you trackstand and rock back and forth (basically stay in one spot).The way I learnt to backhop was to ride forward, pull the front brake and do a small endo, then as the back wheel comes back down, hold the back brake and lean back pulling back on the bars to bring the front up. As you come back have your knees bent and extend them as you come up to the balance point to hop.Try looking on www.trashzen.com for more techniques. As someone else said, Ryan Leach, The Art of Trials is a good DVD for basic and more advanced skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 i taught myself back wheel control from doing wheelies although that dosent really help as many bikes no longer have saddles. the endo technique also seems to ring a bell and sounds a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) hithis sounds a bit stupid but how do you pedal hop, still cannot do it.please helpmany thanksDINODid you look at the link i posted, and that was repeated in the post above your own? The pedal kick tutorial is the fourth result down Edited August 17, 2007 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshball Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I think the first thing i learnt whilst riding was just general bike control and riding up like 2 pallets the i went into pure hoping and doing endos when riding round and wheels.But my balence on my rear wheel is still useless hahah...JoshxP.S The trashzen i think is amazing you should really take an hour and just browse through and wathc the tutorials they really do benifit you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeEden Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Hias title, what is the first thing i should really learn. I have watched loads of videos of people wwho can get on the back wheel and hop on it but when i try my front wheel just comes in and out towards my body instead of the whole bike hopping. Any tips and is there a how to video as that would be greatmany thanksdinothere is some video's on www.youtube.com tells you how to manual and all of that but i dont no if it shows you what you are talking about but i think you are talking about pedal hopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky_J Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 they do a very good DVD in halfords called mastering the art of trials by ryan leech thats very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials-lover-josh Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I know of some good tutorial videos.....go on you tube type in ryan leech n look on some of his clips when he is in a whit room with box'es and stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekes Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 For me the best way to learn has always been just riding stuff and figuring things out myself, I've tried tutorial vids and such but practicing one move over and over again got me bored too fast. The only thing I really learned and targetted on was learning to pedalkick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsy Taylor Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 i taught myself back wheel control from doing wheelies although that dosent really help as many bikes no longer have saddles. the endo technique also seems to ring a bell and sounds a good ideawith the wheely thing, try it on grass first. flipping on conrete hurts alot. Also, i learnt to back hop with the endo technique, and got quite quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 I practised my rear wheel balance with the front wheel on a bench. It meant i could try hopping on the spot properly (without travelling a foot back each time) and if i fell forwards i could just lean back and start again. Had it nailed without the bench within a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neomember Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 (edited) Being a newbie myself, the best advice i can give you is to get on your back wheel with 1/8 of a pedal stroke using your choco foot. Us beginners, tend to have very poor balance so you need to get on your back wheel as fast as possible before loosing balance. I couldn't do it by rocking or using a ledge. I was struggling too much to keep balance.Just practice hopping on two wheels first to get that bouncy/pogo-stick feeling. Use your legs and ankles to do it, especially ankles... not the arms. Backhopping is pretty much the same in my opinion.Another trick is to pre-position yourself properly before lifting the front wheel. Arms and legs bent half way to start with. Keep your elbows locked, head down, do not loose your position while tilting. If done properly it should feel quite clumsy, you should be close to the bike. Go with the 1/8 pedal stroke and catch the bike with your rear brake(one finger). You should remain in the same starting position on your back wheel. Try to do 1-2 hopping to begin with. Try to hop as you were hopping on your two wheels.You will eventually hop backward and have problem leveling your crankset but that's normal. Focus on those 1-2 hops just to understand the concept. You'll be backhopping in no time after that.Hope it helps, good luck!! Edited September 4, 2007 by neomember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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