Clownbike Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) HeyI've been searching the forum for ages about the general idea of geometry and how it effects your riding. Not one topic seems to agree on anything?The most common answers are below;Larger BB rise the more control you have on the back wheel, less stable when riding in a straight line. More power to gap.Longer chain stays help with gaps but are less stable on the rear wheel.Head angle: Steeper the angle, the harder it is to hook.Top tube length: longer easier to tap, but with a high BB rise it feels shorter.Please could somebody confirm this?How does BB rise effect front wheel gaps?Part DeuxI've been offered a good deal on a brand new Echo Team frame (£150 as i'm going to Canada), but i'm not sure if it's the 07 frame yet. If it is, the BB rise is 60mm! I'm only 5ft 8ish. I don't do a lot of streety moves any more, mostly sidehops and backwheels (not taps). Would this actually be suited to me. i'm currently riding a python 06 long and i though i would try something shorter. I'm affraid it will feel too short with that BB rise. Any ideas on what they are like to ride? Any help would be much apreciated!CheersNeil Edited August 15, 2007 by Clownbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Long = Good side hopping etc.Short = Good chucking around (taps etc)BB rise = I find it doesn't make that much difference on mods because there all pretty similar anyway...Chainstay length= [Long] good for side hopping [short] Good for taps etc.Correct me if I'm wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownbike Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Long = Good side hopping etc.Short = Good chucking around (taps etc)BB rise = I find it doesn't make that much difference on mods because there all pretty similar anyway...Chainstay length= [Long] good for side hopping [short] Good for taps etc.Correct me if I'm wrong...Sorry Quackers, you replied before i could complete my post! I pressed enter a lil too early lol.Interesting thoughts though.....i did find my long python easier to sidehop than my mates monty, but then i got thinking, is it weight that would make it easier to sidehop rather than length (as my python is lighter...i reckon)?I'm so confused! I really wish i could just buy loads of bikes and try them.CheersNeil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashZen Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Long = Good side hopping etc.Short = Good chucking around (taps etc)BB rise = I find it doesn't make that much difference on mods because there all pretty similar anyway...Chainstay length= [Long] good for side hopping [short] Good for taps etc.Correct me if I'm wrong...Dunno on mods,But on stock, +60mm bb rise means, near impossible to bunny hop unless you adjust your stem/bars really high and back. You feel like always resting on your arms on the bars. Long also means more reach for front-wheel moves (gap landing, sidehops to front etc..)yep, try to have the shortest chainstay... incredibly more stable on the rearAfter a few weeks/months, you just adapt. The good news is, what you may loose out, you gain in another way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard jersey Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Higher BB rise means the bashguard is obviously further up and therefore there is more ground clearance. So for things like hooking, your bashguard isn't in the way for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Sorry Quackers, you replied before i could complete my post! I pressed enter a lil too early lol.Interesting thoughts though.....i did find my long python easier to sidehop than my mates monty, but then i got thinking, is it weight that would make it easier to sidehop rather than length (as my python is lighter...i reckon)?I'm so confused! I really wish i could just buy loads of bikes and try them.CheersNeil speedy...Anyway, yeah sounds about right, not too sure about top tube length... Never even thought about it!But i think Higher BB makes gaps to front wheel easier? You need to get your body weight up, and forwards. And with a higher bb, your already in that position (sort of)...Best i can do lolMax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownbike Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) Higher BB rise means the bashguard is obviously further up and therefore there is more ground clearance. So for things like hooking, your bashguard isn't in the way for example.Yeah i get that. But i'm looking for answers about the things you can't see - i'll try and explain. You can clearly see with a high bb you have more clearance, so you can put a picture of your bike in your head and do the move, but i can't totally see how a high bb would give you more power to gap?Thanks though.Lol, i just read what i put above, i hope it makes sense to other people! Edited August 15, 2007 by Clownbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownbike Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 BUMP BUMP BUMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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