Bearded Midget Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 ok well basically ive been looking at new frames lately and the python catches my eye. everyone i see ride one rides them like a beast. but the wheelbase is rather long on the longer version, i am just curious about how tall you might have to be to ride the longer version, as im like 5 foot 3 i beleive so im pretty midget, but i dont want to get the short unless you can tell me it still rides a beast.so anyone got opinions on how both versions ride and any idea what one i should go for (when i get the dosh ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 If you are 5ft3, I would suggest getting the short version. The longer one will have too much reach, and will make it more of a handful to chuck around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 If you are 5ft3, I would suggest getting the short version. The longer one will have too much reach, and will make it more of a handful to chuck around.i was thinking it may be a bit much, and in any case the short is the same lenght as most other long bikes lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mods Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 ok well basically ive been looking at new frames lately and the python catches my eye. everyone i see ride one rides them like a beast. but the wheelbase is rather long on the longer version, i am just curious about how tall you might have to be to ride the longer version, as im like 5 foot 3 i beleive so im pretty midget, but i dont want to get the short unless you can tell me it still rides a beast.so anyone got opinions on how both versions ride and any idea what one i should go for (when i get the dosh )Tell me your not buying one because you think you will ride better for it. people who are good on them are good riders it's not just the frame, anyone can be good on any frame once they are used to it. i know that some frames are easier to do some on things than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I used to have the old mk1 python many years ago, which measured in at 1045 (silly long) and I was just under 6ft, and I found that too long. Best bet is to see if you can find someone with a short one, and have a quick go. Try to base your oppinions around frame reach ect, not around the componentry that they have, as that will give an indication of if its the right size for you, not how it rides, as yours will feel different with different parts on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I recommend the shorter version.I ride the Zoo Python 2005 Long:1045 Wheelbase364 Chainstays72 HeadangleBB Rise ????? Not alot anyways.Im bang on 6ft and i find that it is perfect for me. Doesn't feel to long and i am really comfy on it.Just go to a big group ride and have ago on a few short and long pythons.Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Tell me your not buying one because you think you will ride better for it. people who are good on them are good riders it's not just the frame, anyone can be good on any frame once they are used to it. i know that some frames are easier to do some on things than others.no man i didnt mean it like that lol, i meant the way they are on the bike, like the balance on the back wheel and the way people gap on them is very similar, its very easy to keep the front of by the looks of things, thats what i meant not as in being able to do things bigger, although i imagine sidehops and gaps would increase a bit quicker with a longer frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mods Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 i don't find gapping easier on a long bike bu definately sidehopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 yeh, i ride a t-comp at the moment which is like 1015 wheelbase i think, so going to the short version would be a big step i suppose, oh and by the way, would i benefit from taking my bash plate of and just using my bash ring because i think im becoming one of those so called "weight weenies" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David20 Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 (edited) I'm about 5ft 8/5ft 9 and I ride a long python. Length feels bang on but, that could be because of me running a monty 221ti bar and stem, think they make the bike feel shorter? I would reccomend the short version for yourself though . Edited August 14, 2007 by David20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 yeh, i ride a t-comp at the moment which is like 1015 wheelbase i think, so going to the short version would be a big step i suppose, oh and by the way, would i benefit from taking my bash plate of and just using my bash ring because i think im becoming one of those so called "weight weenies" no leave it on, i missed having a bash when i went to a bashless frame, (cough get a frame with a bashplate) you worry less about killing it i know you don't care about your frame getting dented after it's been smashed up a bit, but when it's all new + prety you appreciate not having to worry about killing it 5 minutes in bashplates ***! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 no leave it on, i missed having a bash when i went to a bashless frame, (cough get a frame with a bashplate) you worry less about killing it i know you don't care about your frame getting dented after it's been smashed up a bit, but when it's all new + prety you appreciate not having to worry about killing it 5 minutes in bashplates ***!I ditto that man, it could affect your style of riding if you are afraid to backwheel/tap to slip down onto bash.Aren't the new Czar frames almost the same as Pythons but have bash plates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Roach Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 (edited) If you put Benito on a long Python, he would still ride just as good. Its more to do with what you thinks best suits yourself, as it is mostly the rider not the bike that makes him/her good.But I would say get the short, as the long is very long Edited August 15, 2007 by chocolate_bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.loves.boys Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 my mates short 07 python feels long on me and im 5'8get one of the old short ones.they where the shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
python_man Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 5' 10 and i ride the long versionbikes just a bike mate, its you thats making the thing go anywhere so it depends on you,go to a ride and 99% of the time there will be a python there, try riding both, and the stem length ect will matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted August 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 yeh the czar frame is litrally the same but 5mm shorter, i might go for that as it has a bash, and you have the option of a rear disc, although i will probably have a magura as i sidehop to my left and i wouldnt want to twat the rotor all the time.cheerz for giving me and idea of how tall you are and waht bike you ride, it sort of gives me a clearer idea of what to get, cheerz,Reece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that NBR dude Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 yeh the czar frame is litrally the same but 5mm shorter, i might go for that as it has a bash, and you have the option of a rear disc, although i will probably have a magura as i sidehop to my left and i wouldnt want to twat the rotor all the time.cheerz for giving me and idea of how tall you are and waht bike you ride, it sort of gives me a clearer idea of what to get, cheerz,ReeceFrom what I remember, you have to make a decision between disk or magura. There are 2 types of frame, as the disk version doesnt have Magura mounts, which seems mad to me but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 And 05 short or none.Matx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigMackay Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Thats not always true about people being able to ride any bike the same, i swapped from a monty frame which i found too short to a python and i can sidehop atleast 3-4 inches higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted August 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 From what I remember, you have to make a decision between disk or magura. There are 2 types of frame, as the disk version doesnt have Magura mounts, which seems mad to me but.yeh daft isnt it! all it does is make the decision harder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duck Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 yeh daft isnt it! all it does is make the decision harder Having the same problem... But I'm 6ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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