DGrabiec Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I have always seem to have problems with front wheel moves so I've been wondering if my bike has something to do with it. Soo..what can make front moves easier? Longer stem? Higher bars? Shorter fork? BTW my setup is (incase somebody has some suggestions)....Zoo riser barsRandom 110X10 stem20mm steerer spacers420 PX forkEcho control short (I'm not changing this....) Thanks for any replies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil Jsy Chris Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I find a disk brake helps alot because it is very sharp but you can also use the brake the right amount so that you can role your front wheel when you land on it.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pearson Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Not caring that you are gonna destory a few parts and potentially lose a few teeth along the way.You do (if you're talking about distance being the difficulty which I assume you are) just have to f**king chuck yourself, face first, as hard as you can across the gap, and hold on.NOTE: Please try this on flat ground first... Baby steps...Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGrabiec Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 just have to f**king chuck yourself, face first, as hard as you can across the gap, and hold on.Thats what I was afraid of haha.... oh well. So I'm assuming that changing my setup won't really make much of a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross McArthur Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 yea man just go for it.you have to make sure ur weight is right over the front though, dont blame the front brake if its slipping, just get right over the front.unweight ur feet too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loffa Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 No, not really. In theory longer stem and shorter fork will make your bike easyer to balance on the front wheel, but your setup is just fine for doing front wheel moves. It's just that you have to get over the fear and go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidehop Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Get right over the front wheel. best thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 setup makes a huge difference i used to have a 203mm rotor bb7 which was immense, could throw myself at stuff and keep my rear wheel lower than the object before flicking through. now my brakes gone shit so i've got to get right over the front before i can go through to back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom jersey Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Disks ***, i have a maggie, its gay, its squeaks i can front wheel like a million times easier with a disk, just through your body forward commit yourslef! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Definitely pinch gap instead of launching a foot from the edge of the obstacle. Secondly I find it much easier to gap straight ahead (not at an angle) and not lock the front wheel. It keeps your momentum and allows you to stay on the obstacle. It's obviously not the case when you're gapping onto something narrow.As far as geometry goes, high-bb bikes are really crap for wheelswaps and gaps in general so i wouldn't say your Control has inadequate geometry for these kinds of moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Mitchinson Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Definitely pinch gap instead of launching a foot from the edge of the obstacle.Genuinely interested in how pinch gaps are better for front wheel gaps. I though it would be worse because it automatically makes you bike go lower....Someone please explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Genuinely interested in how pinch gaps are better for front wheel gaps. I though it would be worse because it automatically makes you bike go lower....Someone please explain?Pinch gaps help give more bounce on take off so its easier to get your back wheel high in mid air, which means your further over the front. Try it, front gap on the flat and then take off with your rear wheel on the edge of the take off, having it on the edge helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loffa Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 As far as geometry goes, high-bb bikes are really crap for wheelswaps and gaps in general so i wouldn't say your Control has inadequate geometry for these kinds of moves.Actually I found that my 06 czar which I absolutely hated in every other way (too long, crap for taps etc) was THE gap-to-frontwheel monster? Because of the higher bb your body weight is more on the front wheel so it's easyer to land with your body in the right position? At least that's what I thought.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 not been scared of loosing your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Actually I found that my 06 czar which I absolutely hated in every other way (too long, crap for taps etc) was THE gap-to-frontwheel monster? Because of the higher bb your body weight is more on the front wheel so it's easyer to land with your body in the right position? At least that's what I thought..I agree, they're really good for gaps to front, but they're no good for wheelswaps in my opinion. It's just so much easier to wheelswap on a low bb bike. I remember changing from an Echo Pure 04 which actually had a bb drop to an Adamant 06, and it really took me ages to learn to wheelswap smoothly (as in to manual onto the obstacle and not just leave the rear wheel hanging off the edge). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 making front wheel moves easier is about being confident, any set up can do it, its just a case of not being a fanny.Simple as that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaMmY Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 just have to f**king chuck yourself, face first, as hard as you can across the gap, and hold on.Thats good advice!!!Try that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Evil1 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 what makes front wheel moves easier?Practice practice practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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