Police Trouble - Majour F**k Up. - The Rest Added!

[Mod Man Leo]

So, its a long story, but i need to talk about it to someone.

In this i have not lied twisted things or agsadurated at all, - all that i say is genuine, - you have my word.

- Note, we were at a party.

Saterday night, a friend i was sitting next to was rolling up a splif, and then a police car comes around the courner, stops, and starts to reverse, my friend chucks the small amount of canabis acros me , away from the road.

And he chucks the Spliff behind him.

The police see we have a couple of beer bottles and say, have you been drinking, i say no (they could not prove it at the time) my friend says yes, a little, he asks how old we are, he says 16, i say yeah, Then it gets sketchy....

The police get my friend to poor the rest of the bottle of magners down the wall - note they didnt despose of it.

Then they said that drinking is not a problem , because of the fact that we were on private land, (we were just outside and around the courner, but still on private land). Then he was just goin, when his partner, got out his maglite, and started to search the floor around us, and way the baggie of canabis (serioseley less than a 5ers worth) and, started to question uss, whos is it were did it come from ect, He denied it, i kept silent.

(note; the last time something like this happend i stayed silent and said i will not further descus till i have a selicitor presant, but that f**ked up last time)

Then he said it was found closest to me and that means that it was found in my posetion, witch is bullshit, cos it was on the floor and i didnt say anything.

Then he took us into the back of the police car, and locked us in, and wouldent say whay we were being taken into the car when i refused to get into the car because he wouldent tell us were (if anywere) we were going, so he threatend to arrest uss.

Again- another majour f**k up by them- When were in the back of the car, he said "one of you can own up to get your mate of the hook, or your both going down. i dont care who addmits, but someone will"

We were both silent for a wile, then i started to say i wanted legal representaion before anthing else is recorded or any more action is take, At that point he said " ok thanks for your honesty, turned around to my mate and said you can go, - note:they did not take ANY details of him.

When my mate was leaving the car i said, no i didnt admit, but the oficer ignored me.

Then he took all my deatales, Address full name DOB and phone number parents name and number.

he then phoned my parents and said i was being taken home.

Sorry about dellay, i had some real problems- no one make some joke about that please

So, when driving back, from chalgrove ( a small vilage near oxford) he didnt know the way, so i had to give thier directions, as we got into oxford they started chatting to me about all sorts of shit like cars and stuff.

When we got to my street, they let me out and then i went into the house, my parents were expecting me so they were waitning, we went into the living room, and he said yeah he was found in persetion of canabis, its nothing to worry about, he is not under arest, but you will need to take a visit to the police stataion tomorow, probably for a coution, they said to my dad 6 o clock, no piece of paper or anything.

Then the next day, the secound i got into the police station they arested me, and searched me, and read me my rights and all that, they got my fingerprints, and DNA - dont worry i tried to resist, but resently, even if i am inocent, they keep that data about me.

logged me into the computor. said i was 6.3 foot medium build light brown hair ect ect,

After, we had to go to some desk deep in the police staion and they stated the situation,

They claimed they arested me on saterday night and that i was found in persetion, and more shit like they referd to the achahol again.

Then i asked for legal representation, and they cannot denie me of that, they started to look prang.

When my selicitor came, i told him exactley what happend, and the police f**ked up So badly its funny.

This is not a technacality this is a majour f**k up.

When in the interview room, he started the tape, blah blah said thier name and rank, who was in the room (myself 2 police oficers and my selicitor) and then they said the arrested me on saterday night, i objected this and said no you didnt, but they argued against me and both of them were certain they arested me.

Then thats were it was the point they new they were f**ked.......

My selicitor said, "are you both CERTAIN you arested leo saterday night, im talking 100%"

They both replied that they were 100% that they did,

So if you did arest leo, you did not follow these proceedures:

My selicitor

Policemen

Did you read leo his wrights within 3 minutes of aresting leo

No

Did you inform leo that he was being arested,

yes

leo says you did not inform him,

we did

There are witnesses to state that you did not inform him

ok

did you put leo in handcuffs

no

when you phoned leo's parents, did you tell them he was being arested

no

When you got to the house did you tell his parents he was being aresetd?

no

when you arrest some one by law you are meant to take the arested person to the nearist police station or other police building, did you do this

no

when you arrest someone you are meant to report to base, via car radio or personal radio, did you do this?

no

At any point in this did you use your radio

no

So you are saying that there will be no records of leo being arested

no, but my personal account

Also you are saying that you did not call base to tell them that you were taking leo home

no

So the base would have thought you were still on patroll for the time all this was hapening

i gues so,

Do you have ANY notes about saterday night

yes

What do you have

leos address

his name and address, did you right any other notes about what happend, accounts ect.

no

when you got back to the police station even then, did you make notes of the encounter

even though you aranged to meet here today, and new that a interview would take place

no

So evrything you write about the encounter on saterday night from now on is void- becouse this interview will affect what you write.

At this point i would like to terminte this interview.

They didnt even get a chance to ask any of thier questions in the intervew.

There are 4 coppies of this tape, the police have to, my dad has one, my stepdad and my mum have the other,

Then after, they took me back to that desk and they gave me bail for 4 weeks (til the 13th) then they said that they will take it to court because i am dennieing it.

But from my selicitors and me and my familys point of view they f**ked up so badley that they are going to drop charges.

From my selicitors point of view they f**ked up so badly that after showing the tape to there cheif sunstible ( the guy who desides if it will go to court) they will get verbally slapped about for cutting so many courners.

The police officers wanted to make a example out of me, but instead they are making a example of themslefs.

From my selicors words, they went into your middleclass house, saw how apoligetic my family was, and thought you would roll over and take a coution.

By the way, i do understand that all of this is completely my fault, and thier is no1 else to blaim, but me.

And i am lucky that they f**ked up so bad.

If anything doesnt fit or something, then its probably the way i explained it, but yeah.

I am currently on bail, and waiting for a word.

Also they said dont leave the country, but i am going to france, but when i go to france i will use my australian pasport, so it will not come up on record.

So yeah, lucky me, all this police majour f**k up has over shaddowed how f**king stupid i was in the first place

If thier is anything that i have missed, or something please tell me so iu can explain, rather than looking like bollocks..

Realy sorry about txt tlk and spelling, spell checking this would take all day.

Edited July 17, 2007 by Mod Man Leo

[Joe Papasnap Maher]

Oooo, i wanna hear the rest of the story... lol

[Sam Nichols]

Quite a few bits in this 'story' don't add up.

[ilikeriding]

Its dealing you get put away for and you have to have over a tenners worth I think to be classed as that.

However I did hear something about being under 18, the drug is a higher class, thats probably wank.

Just tell the truth and it saves hassle

[dave85]

I can't help feeling that acting like you have something to hide by asking for representation didnt exactly convince the copper to go easy.

[Ash-Kennard]

Quite a few bits in this 'story' don't add up.

agreed, mainly the spelling

[anzo]

Its a little sketchy I admit, but you weren't exactly all innocent...but I suppose that is besides the point if he's putting words into your mouth.

Best bet is to contact the police complains commission and put an official complaint in (in writing and KEEP A COPY!). IF this went to court, its a bit of a 50/50 situation. Unless your 'mate' as you dearly call him, admits liability then I'm afraid your both in the shit.

Nothing will come of this, you were caught with a small amount, personally in your situation, I'd at admit it and claim personal use...A caution if your lucky.

With a situation like this I really wouldn't take the advice of a forum...we're all quite young and in reality with things like this, we know f**k all...seek professional legal advice. Citizens Advice Beareu or something.

[Fixed Pants™]

g your mate up, he shouldnt be smoking weed.

[Dr. Nick Riviera]

agsadurated

don't do drugs kids!

[Simpson]

just deny it if you didnt touch the bag and doesn't have your finger prints on it and so if in court they want to prove that you and the cannabis was connected they need something more solid than it being on the floor in your area, you sound like youv'e given cheek asking for legal representation over a small bit of weed, it will end in nothing trust me, my mate got caught and they turned his whole bedroom upside down and found nothing. Even if they blood sample you and you haven't been doing it it will show up clean, and doubt youv'e had enough high grade cronic to show results of too much concern. Just on a power trip leave it and you wont result in anything major.

[Alex-Mitchinson]

The part about them finding the canabis on the floor and then saying you were in posession of it cant be right surely?

How is that actual proof that it was you?

Oh and I dont think it will be that bad if you do end up getting fuked for it because " it was only a few quids worth".

[Martin Grainger]

nah, dont grass your mate up but have serious words with him...drugs? whats the point?

[rocktrials]

why were you drinking outside, around the corner? to act tough? why not just sit inside and drink, or in the back garden?

you're obviously going to attract police if you're sat somewhere where it looks public, drinking.

and why keep sitting next to him whilst hes rolling a splif up??

fair point its not you touching the stuff or anything, but coppers dont know that. would have got up and walked away.back into party, found some girl, taken upstairs and schwing.

[-RoBBo-]

Well I got arrested in Town on saturday night for apparent 'GBH'. Police couldnt of tried to frame me and fix it more.

[anzo]

Well I got arrested in Town on saturday night for apparent 'GBH'. Police couldnt of tried to frame me and fix it more.

I was cautioned for 'Obstructing an emergency call' when I crossed the road on a blind corner, even at that he was nowhere near me at all...

Such an emergency that he had time to stop the car, run and grab hold of me (out a crowd) and put my arm up my back....tosser.

[Siders77]

I can't help feeling that acting like you have something to hide by asking for representation didnt exactly convince the copper to go easy.

you sound like youv'e given cheek asking for legal representation over a small bit of weed,

Exactly, should have just told the truth from the beginning, not just sat and said nothing, who gives a shit if you get your 'mate' in trouble, if he isn't big enough to own up to having drugs on him then you should tell them what REALLY happened, if you told us the proper story that is.

I highly doubt the police would ignore you anyway, you MUST have said something more to make them think that the weed was yours.

Edited July 16, 2007 by Siders77

[Ash-Kennard]

I highly doubt the police would ignore you anyway, you MUST have said something more to make them think that the weed was yours.

he blate had "i <3 hemp" written on his shirt or something haha

[willy wonka]

he blate had "i <3 hemp" written on his shirt or something haha

or, 'dont drink and drive.. smoke weed and fly'

[Fixed Pants™]

yeah, should grass him up because he obv werent gonna save your arse, meaning hes not a good mate, or a mate at all.

[Siders77]

he blate had "i <3 hemp" written on his shirt or something haha

[Si-man]

I hope you pay this mate of yours a visit with your friend stanley.

Sounds like a tosser really.

[BONGO]

I hope when you come back and add to the story, you don't turn it into a "look how the tosser policeman dealt with me" story...

You acted like they don't want to see an innocent person act, and he did his job, so that's the end of it...

Unless however something does turn out to be clearly out of order.

But at this stage, you're in the wrong and didn't deal with it well.

[Si-man]

Well within your rights to not say anything and get a solicitor if they suspect you and stick you in the car.

I got told by policeman on a power trip to get a life because i was sat on a playpark at the age of 19 just after playing a game of footy right next to the playpark on the footy pitch.

I f**king LOVE the police...

Edited July 16, 2007 by Si-man

[Fish-Finger-er]

Well within your rights to not say anything and get a solicitor if they suspect you and stick you in the car.

yea, but saying that before they even think its yours, acting all hard man " ive seen the bill so jog on piggy" doesnt go down too well.

basically if youd stood at the scene, and said, look im sorry mr officer, i know it was wrong,and acted all remorseful and scared, chances are theyd of given you a pat down,took your name and address, took the baggie, and buggered off.

as for the whole its not dealing unless you got more than a tenners worth, and you dont get done for anything less than that. its a total load of bollox. a tenners worth of rocky to me, would get me 15g(otherwise known as a genourous half ounce), but of green, id be lucky to get a teenth/1.75g for that.

walkin round with a 15g chunk of rocky would get me in a lot more crap, than a baggy with a teenth in it.

you can be done for dealing for sharing a joint with a mate, but the police arent as pedantic to let it go this far, possession is still a criminal offence, just because its been declassified, its still against the law. just the police would more than like to hand out a caution over a cheeky cig, than they would file paperwork and get you done for it.

as it stands, youll finish your bail, more than likely get the option to accept a caution, or a reprimand(which will be wiped from your record as far as employers are concerned at 18, just will still be on the police database)

you could of cause shove 2 fingers up at this, and say you didnt do it, so you wont accept a caution and tell them to shove it up there ass, at which point it becomes more serious, and you could see fines+ costs if yhe magistrates go against you.

as for your mate, it depends how you work, with my friends, its whatever your caught for, your caught for, you dont grass, although you dont own up(say hypothetically one me mates was found socking some disco biscuits on entry to a club and a nosy bobby stepped in, they wouldnt be expected to say yea, thats mine, that ones mine, ive got a half of that one. ) but on the same front, dont think theyd just chuck something then let someone else get the blame.

[Simpson]

as for your mate, it depends how you work, with my friends, its whatever your caught for, your caught for, you dont grass, although you dont own up(say hypothetically one me mates was found socking some disco biscuits on entry to a club and a nosy bobby stepped in, they wouldnt be expected to say yea, thats mine, that ones mine, ive got a half of that one. ) but on the same front, dont think theyd just chuck something then let someone else get the blame.

Yea i know what you mean.... everyones telling you to grass but really i wouldn't at all, he knows that you "wern't involved" and grassing him up will just land you both in trouble, if it was me I'd prefer me and a mate got in trouble than just my mate who did nothing wrong, so I'd give him some jipp about it, but just take it on the chin.