Read And Sign

[Fixed Pants™]

The one on the far right turned to islamism, but that's for not the right reasons... It's so, and i quote 'it means you get treated better in pen' (pen being prison), that lad is a nut case, as slow as a moped and really wouldn't know when to stop. His stupidity is quite funny though.

[Mark W]

I can deal with them fist fighting (as long as things don't get out of hand) over some turf, but not killing each other.

I don't even get how you can think it's right people fight over shit like that anyway? "My Mum has to live in a flat in these ends blud, we gotta fight"? They just need to grow the f**k up... Twats like that are way worse than any immigrants "IMO". Not to mention I can't stand that f**king awful pikey London accent either, just f**ks me riiiiiight off.

[Fixed Pants™]

Yeah, it's a f**king stupid concept, but they're not really gonna stop, one thing i actually learnt from history, is that the treaty of versailles was a compromise, i think compromises need to be made, whoever it was didn't get everything he wanted, but still got some things because you can't change too much over night.

Compromise; they fight, no knives, no guns, simply a fist fight to settle a few 'disputes'. And, sometimes it's nice to have a little ruck, quite fun as long as it doesn't go too far.

And the pikey London accent, what do you mean? Cockney, like, 'faackin' 'ell' etc?

[Mark W]

Think Dizzee Rascal.

[Mr Plod]

Yeah, it's a f**king stupid concept, but they're not really gonna stop, one thing i actually learnt from history, is that the treaty of versailles was a compromise, i think compromises need to be made, whoever it was didn't get everything he wanted, but still got some things because you can't change too much over night.

Compromise; they fight, no knives, no guns, simply a fist fight to settle a few 'disputes'. And, sometimes it's nice to have a little ruck, quite fun as long as it doesn't go too far.

And the pikey London accent, what do you mean? Cockney, like, 'faackin' 'ell' etc?

Think he meant the more "Oi Blad! S'gwanning rudeboi" type of accent... And you're not cockney... Only us East Landaners can talk like that me 'ole china plate

As for the compromise. They'll never stop using weapons. Simple as. Purely because they'd much rather wipe out another gang by killing them than just having a war of words... It's never gonna change...

Back on topic though. I've signed... but purely because I don't want my money being spent on something like that. Its not going to benefit me or many other people... just the muslim community. Fair enough if its funded my the muslim mosques and clerics and things like that.... But if its taxpayers money then I don't want it.

(Hope the Met Police don't see this post as it could bugger up my chances of becoming a PCSO!!! haha)

[Fixed Pants™]

Oh, that.

It's more 'rudeboy' than pikey, but yeah, i hate it, at least i can understand it though, which puts me in an advantage, as i can sweet talk them out of doing bad stuff to me subtly adding their own words into it.

Also helps that i know the main members from mainly primary school but secondary school also and i'm 'tight' with them homechaps.

[Has anyone seen my shoe?]

Lol, i'll have a racist joke with people but some of the views people posted in here are a bit treme to the x.

Even if it was being planned that a £100M mosque was being built who cares, look at St Pauls, that things f**king huge!

Plus just look at all the other christian things around, im not saying that we sound balance all the religous buildings around britian but we should be receptive of other ideas.

And just remember, most muslims in britian now are british born, its as much their culture as it is ours.

[ilikeriding]

Lol, i'll have a racist joke with people but some of the views people posted in here are a bit treme to the x.

Even if it was being planned that a £100M mosque was being built who cares, look at St Pauls, that things f**king huge!

Plus just look at all the other christian things around, im not saying that we sound balance all the religous buildings around britian but we should be receptive of other ideas.

And just remember, most muslims in britian now are british born, its as much their culture as it is ours.

St pauls is a waste of money too....

I think it would be the fact that it would put st pauls in shadow

and as some white people believe as it is their nation

(a christian one) it shouldnt be the religious focal point of britain

Edited July 15, 2007 by afroman

[Tomm]

I love the fact that suddenly it's the size of St Paul's that's the issue here. It's like saying the Mona Lisa is a rubbish painting because it's not as big as something I scrawled on a bus top.

The other stupid thing is how everyone seems to think we're a Christian country, and that St Paul's is our national icon. When is the last time you went to church? In this country, more people follow football as a religion than Christianity.

[yoyoyo]

I thought we were more christian as a whole, as in over 55% christian. But that could possibly be the world. I can't remember.

Besides isn't Islam the fastest growing religion, so eventually they'll be able to fund their own mega mosque, least then we can't moan about it been our money.

Oh and know their is no actually money given, i have read the thread, just following the conversation.

[Fish-Finger-er]

I thought we were more christian as a whole, as in over 55% christian. But that could possibly be the world. I can't remember.

Besides isn't Islam the fastest growing religion, so eventually they'll be able to fund their own mega mosque, least then we can't moan about it been our money.

Oh and know their is no actually money given, i have read the thread, just following the conversation.

yes i think as a nation we are 55% christian, as the census will tell you, but and its a big but, not many of them people are what id call active christians.at work there are 7 of us, 6 of them will be listed as christian on the census(dont think i am listed as christian, ive never been christened, so think my mother just puts me down as other, or atheist) out of them 6, only one of them ever goes to church, and the only reason he goes to church, is because his wife is a vicar.

thats taking a typical country working town, with an old(ish) (only 2 of the "christians" is under 45) spread of people, the youth of today is less religious than ever, so i should imagine on an average out of 100 people, no more than 4 will pray(other than in times of great need) or attend church services(other than weddings, christenings and funerals).

but on the muslim side, i should imagine the number of people who pray daily, and attend a mosque on a semi frequent basis(because out here we dont have a mosque for 45 miles or so) is much higher

[Tomm]

yes i think as a nation we are 55% christian, as the census will tell you, but and its a big but, not many of them people are what id call active christians.at work there are 7 of us, 6 of them will be listed as christian on the census(dont think i am listed as christian, ive never been christened, so think my mother just puts me down as other, or atheist) out of them 6, only one of them ever goes to church, and the only reason he goes to church, is because his wife is a vicar.

Yeah, exactly. If there's a census on religion, I am probably down as C of E, even though I haven't believed in (a Christian) God since I was about 6. But I've been Christened and all that when I was younger. So I think you're probably right, if you count the church-going population of Britain, there are not many Christians.

In fact, I wonder what the numbers of church goers is compared to mosque-goers.

[Captain Scarlet]

Well if this was to happen, I would be totally against it.

I feel that Britain is too lenient and gives other races and countries too much of a chance, true, not every muslim is going to be a terrorist, but think back to ways of punishment, if one person in a group did something wrong and didn't come forward then the whole group should be punished or not given certain privelleges.

I am not a racist as I believe everyone is different and has their own story to tell, but Britain is becoming over populated, in some circumstances I believe it is acceptable for people living in other countries to move to Britain permenantly (such as Asylum seekers), but if the majority of the muslim population was to come to Britain, what is there left for the main British Christian population?

I believe that if this was true then the money could be spent on more worthwhile things, I don't mind in the building of a mosque because the devoted muslims in this country need to pray and worship as part of their everyday life, but its not fair to spend a huge sum of money that will only benefit one group of people, when it can be spent in hospitals or public transport where it every group of people as anyone can use these public places.

[Tomm]

think back to ways of punishment, if one person in a group did something wrong and didn't come forward then the whole group should be punished or not given certain privelleges.

Yeah, in the same way that we used to try and drown people to see if they were innocent; if they floated they were guilty, so they were killed.

[F-Stop Junkie]

Well if this was to happen, I would be totally against it.

I feel that Britain is too lenient and gives other races and countries too much of a chance, true, not every muslim is going to be a terrorist, but think back to ways of punishment, if one person in a group did something wrong and didn't come forward then the whole group should be punished or not given certain privelleges.

Britain is too lenient towards 'other' races? Are you talking about non-whites as others?

Also the idea of punishing whole groups, or restricting their rights. You are joking, right? That at best is segregation, at worst it's aparthide. Neither of which have worked in the past.

It's one thing to punish a class at school like that, but you can't do it to millions of people based on their religious beliefs, especially when senior Muslim leaders are denouncing the acts of terrorism going on.

[Has anyone seen my shoe?]

I love the fact that suddenly it's the size of St Paul's that's the issue here. It's like saying the Mona Lisa is a rubbish painting because it's not as big as something I scrawled on a bus top.

The other stupid thing is how everyone seems to think we're a Christian country, and that St Paul's is our national icon. When is the last time you went to church? In this country, more people follow football as a religion than Christianity.

Firstly, well done on becoming a mod.

When it comes to buildings, size generally would tell someone that it cost alot. Plus it was the size of this '£100m mosque' that was what everyone started to complain about.

And this country is a predominantly christian country but that doesnt mean that the other faiths should be ignored. I also didn't say that St Paul's is our national icon, but its one of the biggest symbols of christianity in the UK.

The last time I went to church was christmas, as it is every year. But why does my (or anyone else's) faith have to brought into this?

And yes, football is far to popular!

[ilikeriding]

Yeah, in the same way that we used to try and drown people to see if they were innocent; if they floated they were guilty, so they were killed.

Agreed, that is a load of shit, thutley would be dead or in prison given what white people have done...

If you disagree with what I have just said then you are hippocritical and racist

[Tomm]

When it comes to buildings, size generally would tell someone that it cost alot. Plus it was the size of this '£100m mosque' that was what everyone started to complain about.

And this country is a predominantly christian country but that doesnt mean that the other faiths should be ignored. I also didn't say that St Paul's is our national icon, but its one of the biggest symbols of christianity in the UK.

The last time I went to church was christmas, as it is every year. But why does my (or anyone else's) faith have to brought into this?

And yes, football is far to popular!

Yeah, my comments weren't aimed at you particularly. A lot of the articles about this mosque mention how it's bigger than St Paul's, as if that was the most important thing. While we're on the subject of football, Wembley stadium cost millions more than this (and millions of taxpayers' money, UNLIKE this mosque), and is many, many times bigger than St Paul's. I bet the people who are denouncing this new mosque had nothing bad to say about that, even if they're not interested in football. At least a mosque is a pretty good cause. This whole thing is just very thinly-masked racism.

[Fixed Pants™]

I'd call it nationalism personally.

However, nationalism is basically racism but with a more political side to it.

[Has anyone seen my shoe?]

While we're on the subject of football, Wembley stadium cost millions more than this (and millions of taxpayers' money, UNLIKE this mosque), and is many, many times bigger than St Paul's. I bet the people who are denouncing this new mosque had nothing bad to say about that, even if they're not interested in football. At least a mosque is a pretty good cause. This whole thing is just very thinly-masked racism.

Yes but Wembley stadium isnt just for football is it? There are loads of other uses for it (I was going to mention the London Olymipics but im not sure it will actually be used during them).

And yes, the whole reason I imagine the petition was set up was to see how many people would be against it.

[mink]

hippocritical

Don't be critical of hippos, they're not racists. They can live in harmony whatever the colour of their skin:

[Has anyone seen my shoe?]

Yeah but that hippo is f**ked, has to stay underwater all the time cos it burns in the sun to easy.

Plus the other hippos do bully it.

I watched a documentary on it the other day

[poopipe]

Yeah but that hippo is f**ked, has to stay underwater all the time cos it burns in the sun to easy.

Plus the other hippos do bully it.

I watched a documentary on it the other day

yeah - they call him cracker and steal his hippo biscuits

[Fish-Finger-er]

didnt realise how funny hippos looked till now.

neither did i realise how cow like they are, go on look at it for a couple of minutes, theyve got a striking resemblance.

[Simpson]

I really do hope no-one reads this thread i think its so f**ked up, its got nothing to do with how much money they may or may not plan to spend on a mosque but how f**ked up 70% of the posts are here, thankgod for the mod's keeping some decency in the thread. Never been to London? Its fully multi cultured and they might understand. I hate people who link words like muslims and terrorism, imo there 2 totally different things, its just the media always want to connect muslims with alkida (sp?) and that... its like linking the KKK with christians... bullshit