Danny Kearns Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 So yeah. It's sort of a mod stock. It's basically a standard stock frame, with 135mm dropout buts you use snail cams ?Has it been thought of/done ?Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 MBK springs to mindMight be the mbk2 but i know its been discussed on here before at the very least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sheehan! Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 May i ask as to why?Arent snail cams like really unreliable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 May i ask as to why?Arent snail cams like really unreliable?My snail cams have come loose twice, ever. IMO they are not unreliable, but it seems to be the opinion of alot of people that it's not.With regard to the original question, yes it has been done, hozizontal dropout's on any normal mtb will be 135 spaced, the cam is just a means of maintaining tension, which isn't nescessary when using a derailler.. (infact horiz dropout's are hardly nescessary then either....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zordon Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Getting back to the topic, BT Raven 7.0 frames have horizontal dropouts with 135mm spacing. They come with integrated special chain tensioners so no snail cams' hassle with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 bt raven 7.0, revell, mbk 2, there is probably more too. its very common with dj bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Azonic Ds1 had horizontal drop outs didnt it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Also Koxx Hydroxx 26", Koxx Coustellier 2007116mm hub spacing is a really stupid idea, there are absolutely no benefits of a narrower hub in a stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 there are absolutely no benefits of a narrower hub in a stock.Stronger axle, lighter hub, narrower rear end for more heel and obstacle clearance... But I agree that 135 is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 May i ask as to why?Arent snail cams like really unreliable?I had trouble with Zhi ones, But now I have Evho ones, I think and they havent cane loose, and there notchless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) Yeah, its not really a new idea, infact its kinda the opposite, horizontal dropouts on mtb/stock frames always used to be 135mm spaced, but recently a few such as denge, and some DJ frames have gone to a 110/116mm spacing to use hubs normally meant for 20" wheels.As people have said, there are a few 26" trials frames that use horizontals and 135mm spacing, the MBK2, Revell, a couple of koxx's and the BT7.0 all do, and I'm sure theres probably more. Also my 24" Iolo uses that set-up.I agree with Adam and Inur that it is a lot better than the 116 spacings, it allows you more options, as you can always use gears with a funky adapter thing, it gives a stiffer rear wheel, as the wider flange spacing i.m.o. is a lot more beneficial to stiffness than a slightly shorter axle, and it allows more hub choice. Edited July 13, 2007 by Dont you Just Hate it When... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 it gives a stiffer rear wheel, as the wider flange spacingNot exactly true - the Echo etc 116mm rear hubs have a wider flange spacing than King Singlespeed hubs and Hope Pro2 Trials hubs... On all the other points I agree though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) Not exactly true - the Echo etc 116mm rear hubs have a wider flange spacing than King Singlespeed hubs and Hope Pro2 Trials hubs... On all the other points I agree though!Was waiting for someone to mention that .If deng had made those hubs around a 135mm spaced dropout rather than a 116 they'd be awesomely wide spaced.What about a revolver? are they wider than the deng hubs?Edit: sorry dude, I cant spell shit haha Edited July 13, 2007 by Dont you Just Hate it When... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Was waiting for someone to mention that .If denge had made those hubs around a 135mm spaced dropout rather than a 116 they'd be awesomely wide spaced.What about a revolver? are they wider than the denge hubs?ffs its Deng not denge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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