samcooper182 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Just wondered what everyone thinks of them. how reliable are they? Ive used them and they feel good but they seem to go wrong really easy. What you lot think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalTrials.co.uk Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I know they are very popular among trials riders. They give the leaver a much more responsive feeling but i know they can knacker seals up pretty easily. I use oil myself but i have been thinking about changing to water, so id like to hear other peoples responses too. Good topic mate Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 They are good all moving parts are plastic in a maggie so no problem there. And they won't naker your seals up really, i wouldn't say its anyless reliable either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarrick Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Ive been running water for about a year. much better feel, no leaks so far and its impossible to get air in the system if you bleed it in your sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornabytrials.co.uk Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 i ran water for a good 2 years and had no problems (apart from they froze once)brakes are far better, miles faster, feel more responsive and they also feel far less spongy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispyboy Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Mine dident work leaver just came straight in .When i bleeded car oil and worked really well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Mine dident work leaver just came straight in .When i bleeded car oil and worked really well must have given a shit bleed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samcooper182 Posted July 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Seems like they are the way to go. Has anyone at all encountered damaged seals from this then? Also, thornabytrials.co.uk you mentioned that yours froze once, could anything be done to stop this for example anti freeze?? Do you find yourselves bleeding your brakes more often with water or do they tend to last just as long?ThanksSam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcd Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 in the winter anti freeze is the best option if you to not want them to freeze.You also do not need to bleed them once you have a super bleed. mine works brilliantly but i just have to lube up the leaver every so often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I'm going to try dot oil soon, apparently it can knacker your seals, but if water doesn't then how can dot oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Dot fluid swells the seals - you WILL make a right mess of your brake if you use dot oil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy wonka Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I'm going to try dot oil soon, apparently it can knacker your seals, but if water doesn't then how can dot oil?This may not be true, but dot fluid does damage to paint work and dissolves it a bit, so maybe this means it will be more likely to damage the seals compared to water.Don't know if its true though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Dot fluid swells the seals - you WILL make a right mess of your brake if you use dot oil!Well all righty then.Where can I get ultra thin, (preferably thinner than water), mineral oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnyMilton Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Well I how do I tell you what they think??? well for a start it works, secondly its cheap and cheerful and lastly easy to do, in 10mins!Johny OUT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb_o Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I don't, and never have, owned hydrolics... but SURELY water bleeds will FREEZE during the winter?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 summer....anyway use antifreeze if your that worried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Breeze Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I just bled my brake with water, and if the seals dont detirirate then i am never going to look back, it works really well, a lot more of a responsive feel to it than using the standerd magura blood, to the person who was going to put dot fluid in, it says spacifically on the instructions not to use it, so maybe that is giving you an idear as to what it will do...... Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandamna Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 personally i love my magura blood, but ive never really ridden water, well apart from trying my friends breaks, and i do agree with what everyone else has said on this forum, because water feels 100x more responsive! but yeah if your going to run it through the winter definetly put some anti freeze in it, just a couple of drops otherwise it will freeze up, it happened to a friend of mine, he used a hair dryer to re heat it! lol but then it messed up cause the water expanded!good luck if your going to use water anyway, if you do bleed them in your sink or bath jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Yeah, matts brake works amazing at the moment. Feels a lot better than it did when it had mineral oil in it.Just wack a bit of anti-freeze in the water before you put it in so it saves you rebleeding in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Some friends introduced me to using a water bleed and it made life so much easier, not to mention the improvement with the brake. As many have said it is much more responsive and it gives a much more positive bite. Good luck, you can always just try it.Moggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samcooper182 Posted July 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Thanks very much for all the help guys. I think I'm going to try a water bleed then. Sounds like the way forward Thanks again.Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) ^^^before you rip your bike to peices, do you know how to bleed brakes?EDIT: incase you get stuck...Because there have been quite a few topics about bleeding Maguras I thought I'd make a topic.... Bleeding Maguras with a bleed kit.For this method you need a bleed kit, here are a few links to online shops that sell them.Chain Reaction Cycles.Wiggle > Brake Spares.You should also be able to get them from your LBS. 1. Losen the TPA all of the way off. 2. Move the whole lever up so that it's pointing forwards instead of down. 3. Fill a syringe with water or oil, it's your choice but I like water better because it gives a better feel to the lever. 4. Take the bleed bolt off of the slave cylinder. This one circled red; IPB Image 5. Use one of the clear tubes shown up there in the first picture and screw it into the bleed hole but make sure that the tube is full up with water before you screw it on. I find it easier to put the syringe on the pipe and fill the pipe with the syringe. 6. Undo the little grub screw on the lever body pictured below; IPB Image 7. Take the other clear tube and screw it into that hole. 8. Ask someone if they can hold an old butter tub or something under the plastic pipe coming from the lever otherwise you'll get oil all over your rim/rotor. wink3_old.gif 9. Now that's all done up nice and tight pump the syringe until most of the fluid from it is gone. (Remember to go from the slaves to the lever!) 10. Now look at the tube coming out of the lever, if it has air in you need to do that again. (When you take the syringe off of the pipe remember to get someone to put their finger over the other end. tongue.gif ) 11. When no more air comes out of the pipe then it's finished. 12. Take the pipe off of the lever and put the grub screw back in but remember when you're taking the pipe off of the lever remember to leave the syringe on the pipe coming from the slave. thumbsupanim.gif 13. Now take the pipe off of the slave and put the bleed bolt back in.Done. smile.gifBleeding Maguras in a bucket or a bath. 1. Fill the bucket or the bath full of water. 2. Take the brake off of your bike and put it in the bucket/bath. 3. Undo both bleed bolts, the one on the lever and the one on the slave. (Underwater) 4. Pump the brake and you should see some air coming out of the slave. 5. Do this until no more air comes out. 6. Do up both of the bleed bolts. (Again, underwater) 7. Take the brake out and it should be air free.Done.Any more questions MSN/ PM me or ask in here.Lee. Edited July 9, 2007 by ash-kennard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornabytrials.co.uk Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Well all righty then.Where can I get ultra thin, (preferably thinner than water), mineral oil?a while ago when i used to bleed with water, a few people used oil like WD40 etc because it so damn thin!i remember reading on here ages ago that some people got some really good results, could be worth a try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy`d Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 yea there ace quick response but the simple solution to not getting nackered out washers and things on your brake is to bleed with DE-ionized water witch is the stuff you have in car batteries very cheap to buy and you can get it in your local super market or something such as Morrison's. It doesn't rust anything or brake your brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 The way to go, its so easy to do, been running mine for over a year and havent had to even bled it since, happy days. Plus if it goes wrong out on a ride it will be easy to fix just find a duck pond....... well you know what im getting at maybe not quite a duck pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.