Clownbike Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) I moved to mod a year ago. I first rode a 05 short Python, then moved to an 06 long python. I seemed to progress more on the 06 long python and now i'm looking to upgrade again!!The contenders are the Zoo 07 python and GU 07. The thing is the GU is 1025 according to tarty which seems a bit short, but I think i want a long frame?? So i was thinking about the Zoo, but the zoo has longer chain stays and a shorter top tube than the gu? So which would ride better, as this says to me the Zoo would be less stable on the back wheel but the gu will have a long top tube which would be better for sidehops?OK i'd be surprised if anyone gets what i'm on about, so if you don't just tell me what you think the advantages are for a long mod frame and short mod frame. If you could focus on the GU and ZOO 07 that would be good.i'm not good at explaining things CheersNeil Edited July 2, 2007 by Clownbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 mate, mod frames dont matter, just get the one you think looks prettiest.i do realise how ignorant that was. i would get the gu mod mate, they look very good geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cristoff Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 the long python is something ridiculous like 1045 and the GU is 1025. i would go for a short python, 1030. i cant explain very well, but i know pythons side hop very well indeed. what wheelbase is your '06 python? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Swindlehurst Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 lol well i have both now a 07 gu and a 07 zoo long both of them are really nice to ride just keep havin a go on other people bikes and see what you like the mostdanny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Compare the length of the bottom tube to find out which frame will indeed feel longer/shorter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownbike Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Thanks Ash, always most helpful!elcristoff-t-pro, my 06 is 1045! I just measured it (like 10 times to make sure) and 1045 is the shortest it could possibly be. I'm riding it with some monty forks, i don't know if that would explain the length. But i always felt i needed a longer frame.Danny, there is no need to keep showing off!!!! Jokes, the thing is i don't go to many rides and all my mates at uni ride stock and my friends back home ride fairly short bikes (mod). I did have a go on a Zoo 07 once and i did really like it. Thats made me want one , but i though i should consider the GU and get some views on it. Do you find specific moves easier on one bike than the other?Inur.....I have no idea what you mean? PS i'm actually pretty short (height wise), but i don't seem to find mods long.....arrgghhh people with these bikes come to visit me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I prefer medium really. I class long as my bike, a Zona Zip which measures in at 1050. Short is my mates koxx which is 1000mm and is really nice but still to short. about 1020-1030 I recon is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Mitchinson Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 1050F**k me thats longer than "long" me thinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 F**k me thats longer than "long" me thinks!I try...It has onza t-pro/mag forks, which have a huge amount of foward rake, it like 40mm, where most other forks are less or so I believe.If I pulled the wheel right back in the dropouts, which I can't or my pads would hit my tyre, it would measure 1070ish, I'm only guessing as my current wheelbase is 1050 and it could move back another 20mm easily. Maybe 25mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Dont get short python it feels way too short you will be hitting leg on bars.The long zoo feels just right at 1035.The 07 gu is shorter but feels longer than long zooas the top tube is half an inch longer on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Its easy to play with your bar and stem to adjust length on mods, as you can make a bike feel a hell of a lot longer with a low stem. Go for the typhoon in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Dont get short python it feels way too short you will be hitting leg on bars.The long zoo feels just right at 1035.The 07 gu is shorter but feels longer than long zooas the top tube is half an inch longer on it.surley that depends more on his bar and stem set up than the length of the bike? I ride a 1000mm monty and rarely hit my legs on the bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 surley that depends more on his bar and stem set up than the length of the bike? I ride a 1000mm monty and rarely hit my legs on the bars.My mate had a Monty 221 PR, neither of us have ever hit our knees on his bars, he has a monty stem with ZOO! risers.It does matter more about the stem legnth etc but also the legnth of your legs and the chainstay legnth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 ...http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=2022"Centre of BB shell to top centre of head tube: Short 595mm (23.5"), Long 610mm (24")"Thats the best way to compare frames in terms of how long theyll feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clownbike Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Inur - Ahhh now i get you!!Cheers guys, i think I may try to get the long python, but i need a go on the GU to be certain.Keep any comments coming guys!CheersNeil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 My mate had a Monty 221 PR, neither of us have ever hit our knees on his bars, he has a monty stem with ZOO! risers.It does matter more about the stem legnth etc but also the legnth of your legs and the chainstay legnth.f**k sake, it was rhetorical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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