Davetrials Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 sorry, what? can't hear you over all that noise.lol thats quite goodis that an age old joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 probably, i stole it from another forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie >est< Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) Im a pap, watch what you say.Sorry, I just dont like photography being compaired to it. its not art.grow up.Oh now, I need to grow up. I personally think you need to grow up. you are argueing with a 14 year old. I respect all the people that have ignored all of the crap in the forum. Dont post in my topics. for everyones sake. People are trying to talk about cameras/lenses and have people argueing in between. This is not a discussion whether I am a 'twat' or a 'F**king retard' make one if you like. As long as you dont fill my topics up with toilet.I have ignored charel and will no longer to anybody calling me a 'twat' or a 'f**king retard' they will have to find another younger person to pick on (try new members chat)Thank you.Charlie Edited July 2, 2007 by charlie >est< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Davetrials! Look, there's a cheaper option than the Peleng! This one is £70 plus PnP. Like the Peleng the quality isn't amazing, plus it's a full-frame fish-eye. So on your D50 it'll be more like a fishy wide I suppose. This guy got one for a crop body, and had to make some adjustments as the clowns that assembled it didn't calibrate the focus ring properly. But according to him it just took a minute or two with a screwdriver to fix. I'm tempted to buy one for my 35mm body just for fun...eBay link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 why would you take a laptop out with you on a shoot? only a 'tard' would do that plus. who realy uses laptops to work on, I cant stand using photoshop on a laptop.Loads of professional photographers shoot tethered. Examples: http://photoshopnews.com/2006/12/06/tether...g-in-lightroom/ , http://www.radugrozescu.com/photo-tech/sho...g-tethered.htmlI suggest you think about what you post before you post it, because at this rate, you're pissing off a lot of well respected members, and getting a bit of a reputation for being an idiot.Although you can't stand working on photoshop on a laptop, sometimes it has to be done. If you had to go to an overseas press conference to work, and you had to upload the pictures to your companies server as soon as you'd shot so they could be used in the newspapers and sent to print, you'd be stuck with using PS on a laptop, you cant just walk around and find a desktop mac setup which you can import your photos onto and work on them, it's not going to happen. Also there are loads of photo exhibitions all over the world which people have to go and cover, and take their laptops to do so. Because say you're shooting RAW on a 2GB card, thats about 500 images, and if you're going to a week long exhibition in San Francisco for example, chances are you're going to take more than 500 shots, once again another reason to take a laptop you on a shoot. Stop being so ignorant, and please please please think before you speak. You're bound to get a lot of shit on these forums because you're posting over-opinionated crap. You've insulted a mod, and plenty of other well known members, so i think you need to take a step back and think about your attitude because currently, it sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) When famous sport photographer Don Morley first covered the Isle of Man TT in the 1950s, the photos from each day had to be taken back to London as quick as possible to appear in print for the next day. So, he had to have them developed on the trackside, and then tape the negatives to the handlebar of his bike so they dried as he rode to the airfield. Then they were taken by plane back to the mainland, and then on to London to the press office.Having a laptop means todays journalists don't have to do that. It's quite simple really. That's just one example. When I travel with my camera on a trip where I'll be taking lots of photos, I take my PC to download the photos to as a back-up, if nothing else. Also most places now I can find a wi-fi connection either where I'm staying or at a cafe if I want to send any/check email, etc. It's light, easy and simple. Laptop, PSU, USB cable, done.I agree with MonsterJ - you should really put more thought in before you write your posts. They seem very single-minded and ignorant to be honest. Edited July 2, 2007 by snappel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) Thanks ian, think im buying one today, u wanna wait a few days and ill give u an idea of what its like? Edited July 2, 2007 by Davetrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-Stop Junkie Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I realy cant believe you mentioned 'PAPS' that realy put me off using photoshop on a laptop, I personally think 'PAPS' arnt photographers at all. They take photos with no intention of taking something for the art but they are taking it to get a photo of Paris Hilton crying or something. Paps are scum that invade peoples private life. who the hell are celebrities anyway. Jade Goody is a fine example of a 'Celeb' and PAPS do anything to get pictures of them.Photography has many aims. Some shoot for art, some for documentation (a record shot of a butterfly or mechanical part), and others shoot based on what they're paid for. Paps are one of the last category.I used to think the same way - pap scum, not real photographers, etc, etc... - but then I saw the Paparazzi documentary on BBC3 and it struck me what the problem is. It's not the photographers themselves, it's not the people who buy the magazines and newspapers either, but the publishers who push celebrities in the limelight, and publish more and more magazines promoting them. As the number of magazines has grown, so has the need to create more celebrities to fill the pages. On top of this, the bounty on the head of a big star is now so big that it's easy to think "If I get a shot of Hot Celebrity, I get £100k." On top of this, anyone with a digital camera can now try papping. As a result, the number of photographers is at a massive high, so everyone has to do what they can to get the shot. Apparently paps used to use long lenses, try and stay out of the way and get candid shots, then one or two people started using shorter lenses, and they started to get in other people's shots, so now everyone has to use wide lenses, and get as close as possible.It also gets me riled up when people use the paparazzi to set up a pap-looking shoot, then complain about invasion of privacy. The whole fame game is about publicity and putting yourself out there, once you've turned it on, you can't decide you've had enough and make it stop. People have a right to privacy, and anyone who oversteps it should be held to their actions, but short of breaking into someone's house or office, if you're out in public, you're in public.Take a top movie star. They're famous, known world wide. Their fame is due to their popularity, and that popularity is what gets them $20m+ a movie. It's natural - I believe - to try and find out more about people you respect and look upto, and this is what drives the celebrity issue. That trying to peek behind the curtain. Without the popularity, there would be less Paparazzi intrusion, but then also less money, less fame, less parties...Ultimately, being a pap is probably one of the toughest jobs in photography for either little or great reward based on little more than luck. I'm sure portrait or advertising photographers make a lot more money for less effort, but then it depends what drives you.where can i rent lenses? whate the going rate can i get one for a week?Depending on where you live, there are a few options. Fixation in London, Calumet and The Flash Centre (nationwide). Prices for a decent lens are about £40 a day, but you have to pay the retail cost of a lens on a credit card, which is then refunded when you bring it back. Really you'd need a damn good reason (and/or live close by) to do it for more than a day or two.I believe Calumet will refund the cost of rental if you then buy the lens within a certain period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 ...Ultimately, being a pap is probably one of the toughest jobs in photography for either little or great reward based on little more than luck.Amen to that brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Celebrities deserve everything they get, including 'unwanted' attention from the press. They sold themselves to us, the consumers, so they can damn well put up with it.Dave... don't take my word on that lens being any good, remember, it is only £70. However, if you don't like it, I'm sure you'll be able to sell it off pretty easily on eBay. I think the guy hasn't sold more because people are sceptical about buying from the Ukraine. His feedback's ok though. Also, read that link I put up - you might need to sort the focusing out on it. Be interesting to see how you get on, and to see what kind of shots you can get with a crop body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie >est< Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) Loads of professional photographers shoot tethered. Examples: http://photoshopnews.com/2006/12/06/tether...g-in-lightroom/ , http://www.radugrozescu.com/photo-tech/sho...g-tethered.htmlI suggest you think about what you post before you post it, because at this rate, you're pissing off a lot of well respected members, and getting a bit of a reputation for being an idiot.Although you can't stand working on photoshop on a laptop, sometimes it has to be done. If you had to go to an overseas press conference to work, and you had to upload the pictures to your companies server as soon as you'd shot so they could be used in the newspapers and sent to print, you'd be stuck with using PS on a laptop, you cant just walk around and find a desktop mac setup which you can import your photos onto and work on them, it's not going to happen. Also there are loads of photo exhibitions all over the world which people have to go and cover, and take their laptops to do so. Because say you're shooting RAW on a 2GB card, thats about 500 images, and if you're going to a week long exhibition in San Francisco for example, chances are you're going to take more than 500 shots, once again another reason to take a laptop you on a shoot. Stop being so ignorant, and please please please think before you speak. You're bound to get a lot of shit on these forums because you're posting over-opinionated crap. You've insulted a mod, and plenty of other well known members, so i think you need to take a step back and think about your attitude because currently, it sucks.I said 'Out' on a shoot. who would realy teather outside with a laptop. especially in EnglandAlthough you can't stand working on photoshop on a laptop, sometimes it has to be done. If you had to go to an overseas press conference to work, and you had to upload the pictures to your companies server as soon as you'd shot so they could be used in the newspapers and sent to print, you'd be stuck with using PS on a laptop, you cant just walk around and find a desktop mac setup which you can import your photos onto and work on them, it's not going to happen. Also there are loads of photo exhibitions all over the world which people have to go and cover, and take their laptops to do so. Because say you're shooting RAW on a 2GB card, thats about 500 images, and if you're going to a week long exhibition in San Francisco for example, chances are you're going to take more than 500 shots, once again another reason to take a laptop you on a shoot. JEASUS, I am not a paperazzi. I take photos as a form of art and no other way. I will not dicuss this any further. END. Edited July 2, 2007 by charlie >est< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Celebrities deserve everything they get, including 'unwanted' attention from the press. They sold themselves to us, the consumers, so they can damn well put up with it.Dave... don't take my word on that lens being any good, remember, it is only £70. However, if you don't like it, I'm sure you'll be able to sell it off pretty easily on eBay. I think the guy hasn't sold more because people are sceptical about buying from the Ukraine. His feedback's ok though. Also, read that link I put up - you might need to sort the focusing out on it. Be interesting to see how you get on, and to see what kind of shots you can get with a crop body.mike had a zenitar. so ask himnot very wide though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I am not a paperazzi. I take photos as a form of art and no other way. I will not dicuss this any further. END.No one said you were a paparazzi. I'm not quite sure who or what you're arguing against? We all agreed that listing your 5 computers was just a bit lame and no one cared. So why are you still arguing with everything written in this thread? Just drop it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 What Tomm said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 anyone tell me what size lense thread nikons are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 You mean the filter-thread size? Depends on the lens. Both your F1.8 prime and 18-55 have a 52mm thread size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 ta G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie >est< Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) No one said you were a paparazzi. I'm not quite sure who or what you're arguing against? We all agreed that listing your 5 computers was just a bit lame and no one cared. So why are you still arguing with everything written in this thread? Just drop it now.*sigh* i'll ignore that. Edited July 2, 2007 by charlie >est< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minitrialer Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I think i clearly stated. BELL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie >est< Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 (edited) I find it funny people trying to egg me on Edited July 2, 2007 by charlie >est< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Has anyone seen my shoe? Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Just stop posting! You're digging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 ta G.Let me know if you need some stepping rings (AKA filter adapters). I've got 52>55>58, meaning you can run 55 or 58mm filters on your lenses. It's better to buy bigger filters, saves you buying em twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie >est< Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Just stop posting! You're digging.Maybe you haven't realised. this is my topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 That doesn't really mean anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie >est< Posted July 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 That doesn't really mean anything.So I make a topic and im not allowed to post in it. Im not sure what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.