Sutty22 Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 My front rim is the machined echo rim (as shown in the pic). I've noticed a few people have drilled their sidewalls and stuff and was wondering about taking some material out of my rim. I was thinking about cutting out the slots that are machined in at the moment. The question I have is, Would the weight reduction be worth the effort and loss of strength. I'm not particularly hard on my front wheel but I haven't gone crazy about weight anywhere else on my bike. Any pros and cons anyone has would be gratefully received. Cheers, Sutty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 (edited) aslong as you dont go nuts and take like the entire squares out or anything it should be alright Edited June 23, 2007 by ash-kennard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I reccon taking out all the squares would weaken it far too much. Me thinks doing one then missing one will be plenty strong and will still look decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Just do the sidewalls were every spoke is, then in the middle of the machined bit, dont make them too big though.Matx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis.jackson Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Dont do it cus its not worth it at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I would drill the side walls, I wouldn't cut the squares out, but you could drill holes in the middle of each square? Biggest drill bit I have is 13mm though and you would have to take the spokes out.Drill and countersink each hole in the sidewall of your rim. I would drill where each spoke is, and in the middle of each pair, but mark it all out first orit looks all wierd. Then countersink them all.Then you would have a half echo 05 rim, half Onza Hog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I would not touch that rim with a drill. The 2005 models were weak I found, I destroyed one in 3 weeks. Dented in 3 hours of having it. A mate of mine snapped one completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I would not touch that rim with a drill. The 2005 models were weak I found, I destroyed one in 3 weeks. Dented in 3 hours of having it. A mate of mine snapped one completely.What a front rim? I could understand a rear but no-one dents a front rim.Drill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I would not touch that rim with a drill. The 2005 models were weak I found, I destroyed one in 3 weeks. Dented in 3 hours of having it. A mate of mine snapped one completely.You having a laugh. Beau Forrest said "These rims were the strongest rear rim i have ever ran, mine had 5 flat spots, 16 dents and it has held 6 grinds and is still going strong to this day. Hasn't needed a re-built or owt. However this was over a good 12 months of solid heavy riding. It did eventually die but what do you expect."These rims will last a long time on the rear. My front one never gave me any trouble either.I wouldn't say drill it on the rear but deffo on the front.Danny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 You having a laugh. Beau Forrest said "These rims were the strongest rear rim i have ever ran, mine had 5 flat spots, 16 dents and it has held 6 grinds and is still going strong to this day. Hasn't needed a re-built or owt. However this was over a good 12 months of solid heavy riding. It did eventually die but what do you expect."These rims will last a long time on the rear. My front one never gave me any trouble either.I wouldn't say drill it on the rear but deffo on the front.Danny.^^ What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 You having a laugh. Beau Forrest said "These rims were the strongest rear rim i have ever ran, mine had 5 flat spots, 16 dents and it has held 6 grinds and is still going strong to this day. Hasn't needed a re-built or owt. However this was over a good 12 months of solid heavy riding. It did eventually die but what do you expect."These rims will last a long time on the rear. My front one never gave me any trouble either.I wouldn't say drill it on the rear but deffo on the front.Danny.Well actually no, he's not having a laugh, he is DEADLY serious.Seems there were some cnc'd Echo rims that looks idential which were strong, and others which were wank.I had a rear and dented it on my first ride, sold it to a mate who put it on his front wheel and dented it again.Feel free to call me a harsh rider or whatever, but you'd be oh-so wrong.So to actually answer the question, drill the centre of the squares and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLeacock™ Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Drill them if you think they look good but dont go to big wih the holes then countersink them that looks cool as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 I would drill the side walls, I wouldn't cut the squares out, but you could drill holes in the middle of each square? Biggest drill bit I have is 13mm though and you would have to take the spokes out.Drill and countersink each hole in the sidewall of your rim. I would drill where each spoke is, and in the middle of each pair, but mark it all out first orit looks all wierd. Then countersink them all.Then you would have a half echo 05 rim, half Onza Hog.Errr, no you wouldn't. I've never taken the spokes out when doing it, and thats with a 16mm drill bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Be safer to take the spokes out incase you go through the rim quicker than you expect and managle a lot of them. My friend did this however he used a 20mm holesaw I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Be safer to take the spokes out incase you go through the rim quicker than you expect and managle a lot of them. My friend did this however he used a 20mm holesaw I think.To be fair, i didn't even take the wheels out the frames/forks when i did them :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 What a front rim? I could understand a rear but no-one dents a front rim.Drill it. I dented my front rim on a pallet, so it can be done. To be fair it is a hog with the drilled sidewalls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt rushton Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I dented my front rim on a pallet, so it can be done. To be fair it is a hog with the drilled sidewalls.Same but my hog doent have drilled sidewalls.Matt Rushton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I would not touch that rim with a drill. The 2005 models were weak I found, I destroyed one in 3 weeks. Dented in 3 hours of having it. A mate of mine snapped one completely.The man speaketh the truth, they were notoriously weak, or at least that was the TF trend at the time. I would say drilling the sidewalls is fine, but dont go anywhere near the squares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 I dented my front rim on a pallet, so it can be done. To be fair it is a hog with the drilled sidewalls.Well in that case, drill it.You either fell off, or messed up, you can't dent a front rim just tapping on stuff. I only bent my wheel slightly when I was trying to learn to tap. It when very wrong and I went over the bars.I'm out of this thread, I would drill it every time but clearly other people think I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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