Zeitgeist

[James-M]

Grrr it doesn't want to work for me...Just comes up with all the stuff around the edge, but no movie, it's just blank.

[munkee]

to be honest imt aking all of it with a cup of salt especially when they talked about 9/11

and not wanting to sound like a cock but hitler got shit done when it needed to be

Edited June 23, 2007 by Spacemunkee

[Extreme_biker0]

to be honest imt aking all of it with a cup of salt especially when they talked about 9/11

and not wanting to sound like a cock but hitler got shit done when it needed to be

A good leader knows what the shit is that needs to be done though. The shit he did was bad for the economy, and Germany.

There are other people who get shit done. Just better shit.

So yeah, you are just a cock, for trying to sound oh so controvertial by idolising hitler, when really the only good trait he had, other people have.

Edited June 23, 2007 by Extreme_biker0

[Greetings]

are you trying to convince people you know more, with grammar like that?

Let's hear your polish grammar then, english is a foreign language to me you twat.

[Extreme_biker0]

Let's hear your polish grammar then, english is a foreign language to me you twat.

Yak shey mash!

[Fixed Pants™]

Shut up.

Inurs English near perfect.

[Extreme_biker0]

Shut up.

Inurs English near perfect.

Yak shey mash is the polish spelt phonetically (english pronounciation) for how do you do.

Obviously it is spelt completely wrong, therefore I am taking the piss out of myself.

Get it now?

I wish I could speak a different language, but everyone speaks english so where's the motivation?

Edited June 23, 2007 by Extreme_biker0

[Nick Garland]

I thought Inur was english from reading his posts before lol.

BACK TO TOPIC

Those are some damn good videos, I always thought religion was a bit funny and I personally believe the theory of evolution. The 9/11 one was most interesting when I first heard the rumors that it was an inside job I thought it was bull but after watching that its quite understandable. There is a lot of information hidden about some stuff in the world.

Just about to watch the third whilst eating lunch, then off riding like we should be, not sat on here:P

[James-M]

I seem to be unable to see the movies at the moment, but I don't understand why 9/11 would be an inside job . Can someone please explain to me the logic of Americans killings hundreds of innocent people, alot of which who were American also. I just don't see why anyone would do this, and why, if this is actually true, it hasn't been publicised in papers/on the news etc.

Edited June 23, 2007 by trials pie

[Nick Garland]

I have just noticed, where are parts 4 and 5 ?

When you watch it you would understand. Its so the government can scare you and thus agree to what it wants to do, go into iraq and so on so forth as the banks make lots of money from this.

Need to watch the whole thing really.

Edited June 23, 2007 by Team War Rider

[Extreme_biker0]

I seem to be unable to see the movies at the moment, but I don't understand why 9/11 would be an inside job . Can someone please explain to me the logic of Americans killings hundreds of innocent people, alot of which who were American also. I just don't see why anyone would do this, and why, if this is actually true, it hasn't been publicised in papers/on the news etc.

The reasoning was that the same people who stand to gain lots of money from such an event as 9/11 are the same people who have the power to trigger the event. The only thing stopping it happening therefore is the morals of the people in this position.

They are faced with the decision weather or not to cause the deaths of thousands of people for a sum of money 100 x a lottery winning.

Would you do it?

If you have morals, no. If you don't, then it depends weather you think you'd get away with it. But if you, like the president of the USA, could click your fingers and appear on every channel in the USA saying in your most sincere face, 'We will get them blah blah blah', you really do have the power to move the proverbial finger away from yourself. And the likelyhood is, you will get away with it.

Edited June 23, 2007 by Extreme_biker0

[James-M]

What about the whole Al Qaeda thing though, didnt Bin Laden admit to it basically? I guess it could all have been set up then, but were all the Muslims (or whoever they were) in on it to? Also, what if the twin towers didn't actually collapse when the planes hit them? I know some other forms of explosives were 'apparently' used, but they surely couldn't be detonated until the towers were collapsing, otherwise people would've seen random explosions halfway down them.

[Smo™]

I seem to be unable to see the movies at the moment, but I don't understand why 9/11 would be an inside job . Can someone please explain to me the logic of Americans killings hundreds of innocent people, alot of which who were American also. I just don't see why anyone would do this, and why, if this is actually true, it hasn't been publicised in papers/on the news etc.

By forcing the public into fearing terrorism and identity theft they can gain concent to push agendas such as 'chipping' people. By encroaching on your secrecy and privacy the government gains absolute control. As for 9/11, a lot of people made a lot of money - we're talking hundreds of millions here. There's no way the Government would allow the media to publicise shit like that which is why it's never printed. You're forgetting who controls what and just how absolute that control can be.

[future orange 660]

what i was trying to get at was if he cannot intepret words correctly to convey what he is saying; then on what grounds can he even begin to slate this program that is more than likely formed by many P.h.d staff?

it makes sense. especiall the religion section... it is much easier to relate to numbers as proof as oppsed to an idea or speculation of 'god'.

[Smo™]

What about the whole Al Qaeda thing though, didnt Bin Laden admit to it basically? I guess it could all have been set up then, but were all the Muslims (or whoever they were) in on it to? Also, what if the twin towers didn't actually collapse when the planes hit them? I know some other forms of explosives were 'apparently' used, but they surely couldn't be detonated until the towers were collapsing, otherwise people would've seen random explosions halfway down them.

The man in the 'confession' tape was not Bin Laden. 9 of the 13 'muslim extremists' said to be on the hijacked planes are still alive and well. The Twin Towers are the first buildings with steel reinforced frames IN HISTORY to collapse due to fire, not to mention they were specifically built to withstand the impact of a plane from any direction at any level. People did see random explosions half way down the towers - watch any video of the collapse and you will see plumes of smoke blowing out windows 10-15 stories below the collapsing debris.

[rocktrials]

loved the first one, skipped 2nd, 3rd one.....wow.

[future orange 660]

By forcing the public into fearing terrorism and identity theft they can gain concent to push agendas such as 'chipping' people. By encroaching on your secrecy and privacy the government gains absolute control. As for 9/11, a lot of people made a lot of money - we're talking hundreds of millions here. There's no way the Government would allow the media to publicise shit like that which is why it's never printed. You're forgetting who controls what and just how absolute that control can be.

not all that spectacular it seems.....otherwise this film would have been stopped, surely?

[Tomm]

what i was trying to get at was if he cannot intepret words correctly to convey what he is saying; then on what grounds can he even begin to slate this program that is more than likely formed by many P.h.d staff?

lol

It was probably made, like all the other conspiracy files, by some f**king weirdo in a bedroom in Ohio or something.

[James-M]

The man in the 'confession' tape was not Bin Laden. 9 of the 13 'muslim extremists' said to be on the hijacked planes are still alive and well. The Twin Towers are the first buildings with steel reinforced frames IN HISTORY to collapse due to fire, not to mention they were specifically built to withstand the impact of a plane from any direction at any level. People did see random explosions half way down the towers - watch any video of the collapse and you will see plumes of smoke blowing out windows 10-15 stories below the collapsing debris.

Surely the inside of the Towers would fall faster than the outside anyway, due to there being more steel/concrete/stronger construction on the outside of the building (the walls), therefore plumes of smoke would be seen coming out of windows where the floors on the inside of the Towers have hit eachother and are collapsing further down than the outside of the building due to the speed at which the inside is collapsing (faster than the outside) due to weaker construction.

[Smo™]

not all that spectacular it seems.....otherwise this film would have been stopped, surely?

Well no. Be at least a little realistic. Of all the things the Government are capable, reading the future is not one of them. You can quite easily film something, edit it and upload it without the Government finding out - at least for a little while or until the damage is already done.

Surely the inside of the Towers would fall faster than the outside anyway, due to there being more steel/concrete/stronger construction on the outside of the building (the walls), therefore plumes of smoke would be seen coming out of windows where the floors on the inside of the Towers have hit eachother and are collapsing further down than the outside of the building due to the speed at which the inside is collapsing (faster than the outside) due to weaker construction.

Why would the inside fall in the first place? It's reinforced steel girders and may I remind you that no other steel reinforced building such as the Twin Towers has ever fallen due to fire in the entire history of man.

[James-M]

Well this one was different Although what I wrote doesn't explain why it would fall in the first place, I would imagine what I said explains the plumes of smoke seen further down the towers.

''3. Collapsing Floors

Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they crashed into the floors below. With the weight of the plunging floors accelerating, the exterior walls buckled.'' Kinda explains what I said. Take a look at this though...http://architecture.about.com/library/weekly/aawtc-collapse.htm

Edited June 23, 2007 by trials pie

[Smo™]

Well this one was different Although what I wrote doesn't explain why it would fall in the first place, I would imagine what I said explains the plumes of smoke seen further down the towers.

''3. Collapsing Floors

Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they crashed into the floors below. With the weight of the plunging floors accelerating, the exterior walls buckled.'' Kinda explains what I said. Take a look at this though...http://architecture.about.com/library/weekly/aawtc-collapse.htm

So why wasn't there a pile of floors on the ground afterwards? By that method there should at least have been 30-40 floors all piled on top of each other on the ground. Also, that would leave the steel girders intact, resulting in the steel structure still standing hundreds of feet into the air. Also, that method is impossible considering the building collapsed at almost free fall speed, which simply could not happen as each floor collapsing onto the one below reached the critical stress required for the floor to give way.

[James-M]

Nothing there said that as each floor hit the other, it was still intact. For instance, they could've just been huge piles of rubble hitting each floor, the fact is, the inside of the Towers were travelling faster than the outside. The chances are that as each floor hit the next, they broke up and fell as piles of rubble, and certainly when they hit the ground they would've broken up wrecking the gurders at the same time.

Basically, there is nothing to say that IF this method is true, then each floor will stay intact landing on eachother.

[Ben Jones]

I get the 1st and 2nd...but can anyone explain the 3rd one to me?!

stopped watching it after about 5 mins..made my head hurt.

[Smo™]

Nothing there said that as each floor hit the other, it was still intact. For instance, they could've just been huge piles of rubble hitting each floor, the fact is, the inside of the Towers were travelling faster than the outside. The chances are that as each floor hit the next, they broke up and fell as piles of rubble, and certainly when they hit the ground they would've broken up wrecking the gurders at the same time.

Basically, there is nothing to say that IF this method is true, then each floor will stay intact landing on eachother.

I can't be arsed to keep rectifying what you're saying. Just watch the video.