dont take it too seriously mate, lol supose i will go if i have to dave!, lol seriously though i cant wait!, allways good comps put on by these guys, think the no novice thing is just an idea because for the last few years they have set out for novice's but non have come, and anyway like dave said, this thred is intended for yoour feedback, so if you all want novice catagory, then im sure the guys and gays at ymsa will take that on bord, seriously if you get chance to attend these evnts you will not regret it, they really are good fun, and all you have to do to win is not put your feet down! how hard can it be!!!, lol rob