Well... I did have a Viz logic stem before, I think its around 150mm-25' "Which Made the bike feel really far away and I wanted it to be closer" The one in the picture is a System Ex, which is 125mm-35' "This one felt much closer and nicer to use but with the 35 rise it felt too steep" With that stem I was able to jump higher, so i think i m gonna buy a trial tech race welded 26" stem which would be 125mm-20' to go with my Viz riser bar. How does that sound? (I think idealy it should be 130mm-25')