Mark W

I'd wait until 3 days before completion. Imagine that. Millions and millions of pounds of construction, they're all spuffing about it nearly being done, all the workers relieved it's nearly over, and all the people helping sort it relieved it's nearly over, security would probably not be super tight 'cos they'd be complacent... Boom? How gutting would that be...

Erm, not sooooo Eastern. There were also British people involved in the September 11th shindig, and there were quite a few arrested in the "War on Terr" (As George Bush pronounces it :)) and held in Guantanemo bay, although that's probably not so key... But yeah, anyway, British people have been involved (and are, I'd imagine) with Al-Qaeda.

The people who claimed responsibility are from Europe, and are Al-Qaeda sympathisers, by the way, so maybe the odds are slightly different :)

A reporter asked the fuzz that, and they said that that wasn't the case... EDIT: Oh yeah, weird how at first there were "At least 7 explosions", but the Police are only saying there were 4 explosions. Hmm. I thought that was a bit sketch earlier :)

*Whispers to Monkey* They were packages left there with timers...

I'm pretty sure the new one's £249, if you haven't found out already...

Are you sure about that? :) Mine's 38", and that's with T-Master stem (one of the highest) with Pazzaz carbon fibre risers, with some pretty long FallGuy forks on it?

It was just that it's got like a perfect shape to it, so you just boost out. When you hop into the downslope, I found if I tweaked the bars right, then tweaked them left just as I was leaving the lip it span me really nicely. Other than that, it was just speed and tuckage :lol: I just find a lot of speed and a healthy-size pump does the job for most airing issues :)

Kudos to Mike :) EDIT: The irony of Dan calling them ignorant was noted :lol:"

Well, to be fair, the French would've had to have placed the bombs and just hoped that they were going to lose the bid? Also, the BBC's Defense correspondent's source who monitors Al-Qaeda's movements and their communications said they'd done it from what he could tell, and the website that said that they'd done it were an Al-Qaeda Euro division... Also, if you use your head, it isn't just about 'clearing up mess'. One word: Forensics :) Sorry if this has all been said, didn't read all the pages :">

Yeah, I'm not saying that they aren't good riders (well, Dave probably isn't (Y)). I just mean that if they didn't get their shiz in in time, then they're asking for the rules to be bent. This is where the problem comes in as they've made a lot of enemies, which is what I was saying earlier...

Well, in the time the poll was changed, 4 have voted, all for no. IT was already in the lead by 20 votes or so (Y)

Bother.

Ssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure it is (Y) :S

Spitting, as was said previously? Or d'you mean there's some other reason?

XC's already in, has been for a while. BMX racing is in the next one. There's talk of vert riding in BMX/skateboarding being in either the 2012 or one after that. Trials could theoretically be in there, seeing as it's like the horsey shit only on bikes (Y)

I don't really give much of a shit what people who "orbit the Butlers" say, they DO piss people off. At rides/comps/on the internet, there are many stories of them pissing people off, and people just generally disliking them. This is typically because of their outspoken nature and general attitude. If you are going to act like that and make people dislike you, and then don't play EVERYTHING by the book, you cannot expect people to give you any favours. Martyn Ashton is a thoroughly likeable guy. No-one seems to have a bad word to say about him. Therefore, he'd probably have been given lee-way if his entry was, say, a few days late. However, if he was a tit (which he isn't before someone reads just that line and decides to hunt me down for it :S), then I doubt he would've been given the time of day. Again, pro-Butler people, you can tell me I should 'get to know them' or whatever, but the majority of people won't, and therefore the impression they give at trials comps is what people are going to remember them for. This isn't a positive view that people are going to have of them, so if they can't abide by the rules then they got what was deserved, basically. (These are my views, btw, not the ones of the person I wa sposting for before)

Someone who'll remain nameless because they don't wanna jeopardise the debate/their position/relationships with whoever for whatever reason has raised the following points that others also feel should be raised: 1. Exactly how and why the Butlers didn't meet the criteria? 2. Who else didn't meet the criteria and why? 3. Do Elite/Master riders automatically get given Worlds places?

Ah, fair enough Josh :( Sorry to sound condascending, just read your other posts wrong I guess. Anyway, Odyssey seem to do weird sorta bolts with 6mm bolts, and bits around them (if you go to the Odyssey site, then check out the Phat Black Widows, you can see 'em there), so it could just be that? Just had an awesome ride tonight :P Found this sorta weird curb divide thing which is just like standard curb height, then drops down to a little above floor height, then raises up again (so it's like a |--\_____/--| but with a gentler transition, more like a bomb-hole). Anyway, it's pretty tight, but managed to like hop into it, then pump out and 180 out every time. Tried going for a 360, but got 270 and kinda ran out of it but went down and scuffed me knee (Y) Was super nice to ride though, really like pops you out of it... EDIT: Did you just add those pics Josh? Could've sworn it was picture-less before :S Aaaaaaaanyway, try tightening it. If that doesn't work, maybe try using the shorter internal spacer? EDIT #2: Didn't see that there was another page :">

Nah, I'm guessing from the super fun talks I've had with Luke before it was just another little dig...

The end of the day though, it doesn't really mean shit if someone like "Your friend" is that ignorant. If they want to be like that, they can be. Doesn't really make any difference...

Yeah, I hear Benito Ros is a total faggot and finds 26" too hard to ride. Oh, and Slinger, Savage, Craig Lee Scott, y'know, properly shit people like that who can't ride stock 'cos it's too big.

Er :- Don't think I've ever claimed to "have it all planned out". Or is this just you trying to be a tit Luke?

Wherever I want/has a job I want to do.