Thanks for the comments people yer. I might save for some new forks. I just hope if I get the echo team forks they will be lighter. Would the forks from the echo team be higher than the ones I have ???? Once again: Thanks- I have a echo bash ring CNC but I have to get the cranks off and I took it to the LBS to try it and he stripped the paint out off the cranks so im kinda scared to try and it rip the threads out off my crank arms