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and you never heard something about the bb thread? it seems to me that some people said it is weak...it's a mistake of me?

thanks dan for your detailed answer. I just hope someone knows the weight. To see if it is reasonable. I can read in your answer that zona is easy on the back wheel.... can you tell me if zona is also good for backwheel to frontwheel movements? have you heard of this problem of bb thread? thanks a lot!

nobody knows zona zip frame weight?

how much time do you use your zona? have you notice a bb thread weakness? do you think it's possible to remove these stickers?

I have and intermediate level of practice, I ride a echo team 2003, and i want to buy a new frame. I'm searching a mod frame wich is more stable on rear wheel than my echo team 03.* anyway...looking at the zona zip geometry i'm thinking to buy one of those. But i have some question about it: 1) I heard that the bb thread is weak: is it correct? 2) what is the weight of this frame? 3) these ugly green zona logos are painted? or it's stickers?

On my echo team 03, I was running try-all isis bb 127,5mm with echo 6061 cranks, eno front freewheel and bashring....My chainline was perfect... Now i run the same isis try-all bb 127.5mm, bashring and eno front freewheel with try-all cranks, and my chainline is horrible. The freewheel is very spaced from bb cup. and my chain almost do a: S.... Someone can help me? because i don't know if a 118mm bb will fit with my setup and the chaineline wil be good.. anyway, 118?127/128mm? 122 (hard to find at a descent price)? that is the question.

i use echo 6061 forged cranks (05 black), with bashring and front eno front freewheel. After three weeks of riding, the thread for freewheel mounting is destroyed! So now, i have to replace the crank... and i'm hesitating to buy the same crank, because i think the thread of these echo 6061 forged cranks is very weak. But they also are the cheapest.. What is the truth? is it really weak? if it is weak...what cranks should i get? because i'm tired of pedal and freewheel's thread problems.

Yes thanks! Do you ride it with bashring or without? Because it 'll probably change chain's line

Please, someone could tell me what Size of bb I need for a Echo team 2004 mounted with a bash? 118? 122? 127????? Thanks a lot!

I think also that 47mm try all havent't this stupid line which make the sidwalls weaker! All Viz rims have this line? What are the strongest rim: between Onza and try all? There are other 38 to 47 mm rims?

Someone could tell to me if, the current Onza Hog Rear, have a line on sidewalls as Viz rim or as my 42 mm fu...ing try all rim? My try all 42mm rear is cracked on this line! So i whant replace my rear rim by an other rear rim.....but not a try all. I was interesteed in buying Viz 42mm or 46mm but they seems to have the same line on sidewalls! The new echo seems to be the strongest, but the the maximum wide allowed by my frame is 46/47mm Anyway , if you have a piece of advice for à strong 42/46/47mm rear rim...it'll be great! Otherwise....i'll buy dx32..... ( but they are not enough wide ....

Are you t-pro rider? could you tell me more about it?

It's the problem, in these reviews, all is manichean, black or white, Very good or very bad! But these reviews seems to be a bit passionate... So it's hard to know the truth.... does it exist any good rider, with a great level , a pro who use this frame and who don't broke any t-pro frame, who is pleased/satisfied with is t-pro?

Do you think, there is a difference between the current t-pro and the 04? Maybe the current is more reliable? someone know if they change the material?

I have read it yet! And it's why i as to people ..... Because sevral reviews are like the following: "This bike is good for beginners but once you start getting good the frame will crack or snap as this happened to my friend. ".... And as i'm getting good.... It's why i'm looking at most reviews i can get, to now the reality. Because, we can easily understand that the one who broke a T-pro is the one who will say "it's a big sh*t"!"..... And the one who don't will say it's a wonderfull bike! Me, i'm trying to approach the truth.... My goal is succeed in doing a choice thanks true informations.....not thanks rumor...but it appear to be difficult! My dilemma is: choose a New T-pro 05 or a used levelboss 04 for about the same price.... Moreover, i'd like taht my bike last about 2 years without any carck.... This is my exact questioning.... And if i ask opinions on the forum, it's because i now that a lot of riders use Onza t-pro in england whereas here in france only 1 or two people ride it! So i hope your answers could help me to make a choice! (a good choice)

Ok thanks, t-bad for your answers....your words confirm what i use to read about t-mag! So if i 'll buy a onza 20" it'll be a t-pro! So i'm waiting for a maximum of reviews, especially about the reliability, concerning T-pro.....to be sure that buy a t-pro is not waste money (despite of the lower price!)....

But the spec 1 of the t-mag (about the same price of the t-pro), give me nothing more.....morever it seems to me that t-mag is also said to bo weak!

I don't think that t-Mag is weaker.....

I know that echo team or zoo are reliable.....my question is.... is Onza t-pro weak (as wee can read it on forums)? or is it a rumour? T-pro is it reliable or not? If y buy a t-pro today, could i ride it again in one year or will it be broken? For information: i have an intermediate level.....

do you think for example that t-pro is stronger than a koxx levelboss? do you think it will be better to buy a used levelboss or a new t-pro?

Thanks will ! I'm waiting for other "reviews".....please

I want to buy a Onza t-pro 05.....but i hesitate because i often read on forums that the t-pro frame is very weak.... So i ask to past and present t-pro user, what is the reality? buy a onza t-pro 05 is it a bad deal or not?