Thanks for that! I don't think deng's an arsehole sponge (don't know real name) I think he is just spreading his money around, It's doing him some favours Look at how many people are going for adamant's, GU'S , and Czar's....It makes good sense. Lets be fair, Of course Deng's descriptions of frames are going to be totally biased, Thats because he wants to make his money, Isn't that what every company does ? Furthermore, He can be an arsehole as much as he likes, At the end of the day, Yao can walk anytime he wants to. Cheers