Hey all, Just having a 'discussion' with my dad about how geo makes a difference, even at my level, Would I be right in saying that a new bike, say this years model of a monty, be much better than an 8 year old monty, same model...? I know for a fact that most people will agree with me, because it's just commen sense. Bearing in mind that he has rode motorbike trials since he was about 14, and is now erm..... in this early 40s, you would expect him to understand geometery. (sp?) If you could just post your views on my statement to see who's right, as it is seriously pissing me off. Cheers jOe....